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Date:      Tue, 29 Sep 2015 15:51:56 +0200
From:      InterNetX - Juergen Gotteswinter <jg@internetx.com>
To:        Graham Allan <allan@physics.umn.edu>, =?UTF-8?Q?Karli_Sj=c3=b6berg?= <karli.sjoberg@slu.se>, "freebsd-fs@freebsd.org" <freebsd-fs@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Cannot replace broken hard drive with LSI HBA
Message-ID:  <560A977C.1070102@internetx.com>
In-Reply-To: <560A9461.8090300@physics.umn.edu>
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>From my Experience using SATA Disks on SAS Controllers, no matter if
theres an Expander between or not or mixed, those Setups keep on beeing
flakey / unreliable. I might work under certain conditions, but its
nothing you can bet on.

Garret Damore (Illumos Project) describes the problem more detailed here

http://garrett.damore.org/2010/08/why-sas-sata-is-not-such-great-idea.html

Am 29.09.2015 um 15:38 schrieb Graham Allan:
> That could certainly be an issue in our case (it's all SATA, which I
> guess at least is better than having it mixed).
> 
> Although Supermicro do list some SATA drives as being tested compatible
> with their chassis/expander, for example WD RE - not that we actually
> have RE drives, it's what I would have preferred but we ended up with
> Reds. I will say that I consulted informally with a WD field engineer
> who felt that the Reds should work ok in this situation, and they have
> generally tested quite well. No doubt the SATA RE model may well have
> more solid firmware.
> 
> Graham
> 
> On 9/29/2015 3:05 AM, InterNetX - Juergen Gotteswinter wrote:
>> Are there any Serial ATA Drives hooked up to the SAS Controller, maybe
>> even with an Expander Backplane in between?
>>
>> Am 28.09.2015 um 17:06 schrieb Graham Allan:
>>> I have seen this and keep experiencing it. I posted a question about it
>>> a while back but I don't think there was much response.




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