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Date:      Wed, 9 Dec 2015 21:24:03 -0600
From:      Karl Denninger <karl@denninger.net>
To:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Periodic jobs triggering panics in 10.1 and 10.2
Message-ID:  <5668F053.8010106@denninger.net>
In-Reply-To: <1449703798.4355.27.camel@michaeleichorn.com>
References:  <34FA7D40-8758-460D-AC14-20B21D2E3F8D@ebureau.com> <1449619470.31831.9.camel@michaeleichorn.com> <56682278.4040302@sorbs.net> <56683FC1.3050001@rlwinm.de> <5668AAB1.1080003@sorbs.net> <1449703798.4355.27.camel@michaeleichorn.com>
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On 12/9/2015 17:29, Michael B. Eichorn wrote:
> I sorry, but I really don't get your point, PCBSD has shown a great
> reason why zfs on root and on laptops/desktops is a good idea... boot
> environments. They have pretty much figured out how to use snapshots
> to go from A-B ping-pong installations to A-B-C-D-E.... installations.
> I am even aware of people using it to run Release and Current on the
> same machine. Unfortunately at the moment the system requires GRUB,
> but there is ongoing work to add the ability to the FreeBSD
> bootloader. Further IIRC zfs send-receive has a history involving a
> developer who wanted a better rsync for transfering his work to a
> laptop. In addition we have pretty much Moore's Lawed our way to the
> point where a new laptop today can out spec a typical server from when
> ZFS was first implemented. Hiding features because you 'can' shoot
> your foot off is hardly a typical UNIXy way of thinking anyway. 

Boot environments work fine on FreeBSD.  Look at "beadm" :-)

What are you trying to do that you need GRUB?

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Karl Denninger
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