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Date:      Thu, 29 Oct 1998 15:25:01 -0800
From:      "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
To:        Nik Clayton <nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk>
Cc:        doc@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: RFC: Handbook reorganisation 
Message-ID:  <7149.909703501@time.cdrom.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 29 Oct 1998 22:11:06 GMT." <19981029221106.19143@nothing-going-on.org> 

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> for the past seven months. I think it's reasonably widely acknowledged that
> the Handbook could use some reorganisation (and, eventually, tighter 
> editing), and this is how I'm (currently) thinking of doing it.

Yes!

> The layout that I'm proposing will look something like this
> 
>     <URL:http://www.freebsd.org/~nik/hb/new-layout.txt>;

This looks to be a major improvement, yes.  I've long looked at the
handbook and sort of tilted my head sideways like an irish setter,
going "hmmmm, the ordering here is just *wrong* but I just don't feel
like getting that bloody with SGML today."  I'm very happy to see
someone else willing to walk in and get bloody to the elbows here. :-)

>   Pretty good. Covers how to install FreeBSD (could use expanding, with
>   screenshots). A basic introduction to Unix, and how to use the ports
>   system.

For an interesting example of how to do it without actual screenshots,
see http://www.treefort.org/~rpratt/bsdinstall/bsdnewbie.html

>   Split up "Serial Communications" and "PPP and SLIP". Create a "Serial
>   Overview" chapter, and a "Dialling in to remote
>   hosts/receiving calls" chapter.

This section could also really use a quick start guide for something
other than pppd with a bunch of gross kermit dialing scripts (which
are actually my own early linkup examples, polished and recycled
through the handbook by a russian author :-).  What's at
http://flag.blackened.net/freebsd/dynij.html represents a fairly good
approach to this.

> The more I look at this, the more I think that calling the Handbook a single
> DocBook 'book' is a mistake. Having it as a 'set' (which can contain
> multiple books) would be more useful. 

Works for me.

> Feedback welcomed. And yes, I am the one planning on donning the magic
> hat of handbook editorship, picking up my trusty copy of Emacs (+3 to
> manual dexterity, +3d6 to Control spells, but a massively increased
> chance of a fumble) and fighting the SGML elements at the end of this
> discussion. . .

Hmmmmmm.  Looks to me like the Docmeister hat which has been lying
here unworn since John Fieber took an extended vacation may just
have found its next owner, what do you think, folks? :-)

- Jordan

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