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Date:      Sat, 1 Nov 2025 21:01:18 +0100
From:      Lars Tunkrans <drsnx60@gmail.com>
To:        Sulev-Madis Silber <freebsd-current-freebsd-org111@ketas.si.pri.ee>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Why is the DVD image so large?
Message-ID:  <73b4a16d-30f3-44b6-8477-aaa8e5aff82a@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <8B8086D4-C68D-4C8A-86F2-C35212823B94@ketas.si.pri.ee>
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Den 2025-11-01 kl. 17:19, skrev Sulev-Madis Silber:
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> On November 1, 2025 4:06:48 PM GMT+02:00, Dennis Clarke<dclarke@blastwave.org> wrote:
>> Why is the DVD image so large?  Can something/anything be trimmed out?
> it's kind of funny
>
> because cperciva was just asked to fill up the apparant "empty" wasted space seen in beta3 dvd
>
> which he did! even overachieved the task slightly, apparently?
>
> so in order to not generate full war we would need to either cut back, remove or abadon actual dvd size in some images
>
> or maybe make image remotely or locally customizable
>
> or provide separate images (tiny, medium, huge) which are just offline repos
>
> or finally start shipping images with various de's which users ask but which can't be easily done as disks don't self-expand. and then you need to archive it all too
>
> or something else
>
> p.s.: btw, i was not able to install ports from b3 dvd for some reason, i didn't check why and completed the test setup from remote

HI

Yes I started this .....
I notices that B2 did not include the DVD: ./packages/repo directory and 
contents.
this was fixed in B3. but B3 was Void of KDE packages. B4 now have KDE 
packages but is 4.8 GB ,
I propose to abandon DVD 4.7 GB format and that future DVD-ISO packages 
use DVD-DL 8.5 GB discs.

Regards

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Lars Tunkrans
Oracle SPARC/Solaris System Administrator
Fujitsu M12 SPARC Specilaist

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Den 2025-11-01 kl. 17:19, skrev
      Sulev-Madis Silber:<br>
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On November 1, 2025 4:06:48 PM GMT+02:00, Dennis Clarke <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dclarke@blastwave.org">&lt;dclarke@blastwave.org&gt;</a> wrote:
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        <pre wrap="" class="moz-quote-pre">Why is the DVD image so large?  Can something/anything be trimmed out?
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it's kind of funny

because cperciva was just asked to fill up the apparant "empty" wasted space seen in beta3 dvd

which he did! even overachieved the task slightly, apparently?

so in order to not generate full war we would need to either cut back, remove or abadon actual dvd size in some images

or maybe make image remotely or locally customizable

or provide separate images (tiny, medium, huge) which are just offline repos

or finally start shipping images with various de's which users ask but which can't be easily done as disks don't self-expand. and then you need to archive it all too

or something else

p.s.: btw, i was not able to install ports from b3 dvd for some reason, i didn't check why and completed the test setup from remote
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    <p><span style="white-space: pre-wrap">  HI </span></p>
    <span style="white-space: pre-wrap">    Yes   I  started  this  .....</span><br>
    <span style="white-space: pre-wrap">        I notices  that  B2   did not  include   the  DVD: ./packages/repo    directory  and  contents. </span><br>
    <span style="white-space: pre-wrap">        this  was  fixed  in  B3.    but  B3  was  Void  of  KDE   packages.    B4  now  have  KDE  packages  but  is  4.8 GB ,  </span><br>
    <span style="white-space: pre-wrap">        I propose  to   abandon  DVD  4.7 GB  format    and  that  future  DVD-ISO  packages  use   DVD-DL 8.5 GB   discs. </span>
    <p><span style="white-space: pre-wrap">       Regards </span></p>
    <p><span style="white-space: pre-wrap">-- </span></p>
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Lars Tunkrans
Oracle SPARC/Solaris System Administrator
Fujitsu M12 SPARC Specilaist</pre>
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