Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 11:14:08 -0800 From: Devin Teske <dteske@freebsd.org> To: Chris Rees <crees@FreeBSD.org> Cc: Devin Teske <dteske@freebsd.org>, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>, Lars Engels <lme@freebsd.org>, "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com> Subject: Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] BSD-Licensed Combinatorics library/utility Message-ID: <951A6CD9-5184-4B67-A852-14175ADD77E0@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <207F328C-0557-4BA5-9C1D-12BFB227F8D4@FreeBSD.org> References: <51AD9B50-9488-45CE-878F-EE97F6914E49@freebsd.org> <201912121119.xBCBJ2Jo017249@fire.js.berklix.net> <20191212130825.GJ5400@e.0x20.net> <CANCZdfpmyk23w0RmYiVOHx3Qzga_H9G=uXypPgGkktwQqX_%2B%2Bg@mail.gmail.com> <72753F50-8810-43C1-BDDD-E541278A146F@cschubert.com> <F436A4E2-5657-4B23-A574-2D66EA68A240@freebsd.org> <17EEA2EB-D963-449F-81FE-E18DD62B2BF6@bayofrum.net> <A263E747-779D-4CBE-B605-EFB1FA1F5BFF@freebsd.org> <207F328C-0557-4BA5-9C1D-12BFB227F8D4@FreeBSD.org>
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> On Jan 5, 2020, at 11:05, Chris Rees <crees@FreeBSD.org> wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 5 January 2020 18:57:02 GMT, Devin Teske <dteske@freebsd.org = <mailto:dteske@freebsd.org>> wrote: >>=20 >>=20 >>> On Jan 5, 2020, at 09:26, Chris Rees <crees@bayofrum.net> wrote: >>>=20 >>> Hi Devin, >>>=20 >>> There are many examples where utilities have moved from ports to >> base- portsnap being one I can think of. >>>=20 >>> I don't think that ports is really a dead zone for software- pkg >> install -y cmb takes around seven seconds, and I would struggle to >> imagine that anyone uses a system with no ports installed. >>>=20 >>> The argument would obviously change if you wanted to use it in >> bsdinstall or similar- is that why you're frustrated here? >>>=20 >>=20 >> 1. Build option survey for testing different combinations of options >> when building base >> 2. Building ports built with different combinations of options when >> available >>=20 >> Both of those situations may preclude having any packages installed. >=20 > We use devel/ccache with poudriere all the time- it's not really a big = problem. >=20 > Having it in ports has the massive advantages that it becomes = available for all versions of FreeBSD, as well as having immediate = bugfixes and the most up to date version available at all times. >=20 > Granted, it does appear pretty mature... but given that no one needs = to approve a port being added (and there are many people who would = gladly make one), it would definitely be the best first step to get = wider exposure more quickly. >=20 > Even while the decisions on importing are ongoing, you could stick it = in a port today. >=20 > "Ports are just as much a part of the OS as base=E2=80=9D. >=20 Thanks. I=E2=80=99ll make some ports. I also have to make ports for the = optional bindings (which include Perl and Python bindings written in C = for tapping into the library from higher-level languages). =E2=80=94=20 Devin=
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