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Date:      Fri, 20 Jan 2023 17:09:40 -0800
From:      Stavros Filargyropoulos <stav@stav.cc>
To:        Paul Procacci <pprocacci@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Load 0.20 on a freshly installed idle system
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Something doesn't add up and is bugging me.

On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 5:08 PM Stavros Filargyropoulos <stav@stav.cc>
wrote:

> Well, actually you were not far off.
>
> The 5 seconds is the interval we look into the run queue:
>
> https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/head/sys/kern/kern_synch.c?view=markup#l87
> .
>
> The average is still for 1, 5, 15 min. So a load 0.20 means that out of
> the 12 times we looked in the run queue the past minute, at least 2.5 there
> was a job. Which I think is consistent with what everyone understands
> `load` is. And again is not what I see in `top`.
>
> Unless we count the  `idle` process? Which we shouldn't...
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 4:56 PM Paul Procacci <pprocacci@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'll concede it probably isn't a 5 second window as what I've provided is
>> for OpenBSD, but it's still a measurement of processes in the run queue -
>> that's for sure.
>> I'm being lazy and don't want to look at the source code.  That's
>> something you could do.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Paul Procacci
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 7:28 PM Stavros Filargyropoulos <stav@stav.cc>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Paul, but If that was the case, then running 5 `top -SH` with a
>>> refresh of 1 second, should increase the load to x4. Which is not what I
>>> see.
>>>
>>> This answer seems a bit vague. Is that the best explanation we have? Do
>>> you mean to say that there is not a single freebsd box out there that has a
>>> load of less than 0.20?
>>>
>>> I'm pretty sure that last time I run FreeBSD that wasn't the case. Also
>>> haven't seen this load in idle system in any other *BSDs.
>>>
>>> Thanks for taking a look anyway.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 4:19 PM Paul Procacci <pprocacci@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Stavros,
>>>>
>>>> Load averages by themselves mean very little.
>>>> It's not a figure of cpu usage if that's what you're worried about.
>>>>
>>>> Load averages on BSD are simply processes which have wanted to run at
>>>> least once in the most recent 5-second window, with a degradation over
>>>> time.[1]
>>>>
>>>> Unless you're having a specific problem, I'd guess to say there is no
>>>> problem here at all.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Paul Procacci
>>>>
>>>> [1] - http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20090715034920
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 6:59 PM Stavros Filargyropoulos <stav@stav.cc>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Paul.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, I used the `-SH` flags. Don't see anything suspicious.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is is the output of the `systat`: Not sure I understand much from
>>>>> it
>>>>>
>>>>>     2 users    Load  0.20  0.15  0.06                  Jan 20 15:54:53
>>>>>    Mem usage:   1%Phy  0%Kmem                           VN PAGER
>>>>> SWAP PAGER
>>>>> Mem:      REAL           VIRTUAL                        in   out
>>>>> in   out
>>>>>        Tot   Share     Tot    Share     Free   count
>>>>> Act 33476K  10672K    513G   12612K   31367M   pages
>>>>> All 35920K  12928K    513G   47112K                       ioflt
>>>>>  Interrupts
>>>>> Proc:                                                     cow      34
>>>>> total
>>>>>   r   p   d    s   w   Csw  Trp  Sys  Int  Sof  Flt       zfod
>>>>>  uart0 4
>>>>>               25       118    1   21    5   13    1       ozfod    10
>>>>> cpu0:timer
>>>>>                                                          %ozfod     9
>>>>> cpu1:timer
>>>>>  0.0%Sys   0.0%Intr  0.0%User  0.0%Nice  100%Idle         daefr     6
>>>>> cpu2:timer
>>>>> |    |    |    |    |    |    |    |    |    |    |       prcfr     4
>>>>> cpu3:timer
>>>>>                                                           totfr     4
>>>>> xhci0 128
>>>>>                                        229 dtbuf          react
>>>>> ahci0 129
>>>>> Namei     Name-cache   Dir-cache    619780 maxvn          pdwak
>>>>> nvme0:admi
>>>>>    Calls    hits   %    hits   %       805 numvn        5 pdpgs
>>>>> nvme0:io0
>>>>>        7       7 100                    52 frevn          intrn
>>>>> nvme0:io1
>>>>>                                                      355M wire
>>>>>  nvme0:io2
>>>>> Disks  nvd0  ada0  ada1  ada2  ada3  ada4   da0       17M act
>>>>> nvme0:io3
>>>>> KB/t  16.00  0.00  0.00  0.00  0.00  0.00  0.00     2880K inact
>>>>> igb0:rxq0
>>>>> tps       0     0     0     0     0     0     0         0 laund
>>>>> igb0:rxq1
>>>>> MB/s   0.01  0.00  0.00  0.00  0.00  0.00  0.00       31G free      1
>>>>> igb0:rxq2
>>>>> %busy     0     0     0     0     0     0     0      142M buf
>>>>> igb0:rxq3
>>>>>
>>>>> igb0:aq
>>>>>
>>>>> And the output of `top -SH` for reference:
>>>>>
>>>>> last pid:  1508;  load averages:  0.25,  0.22,  0.10
>>>>>
>>>>>                                                                   up
>>>>> 0+00:08:13  15:57:54
>>>>> 131 threads:   5 running, 106 sleeping, 20 waiting
>>>>> CPU:  0.1% user,  0.0% nice,  0.0% system,  0.0% interrupt, 99.9% idle
>>>>> Mem: 16M Active, 3032K Inact, 355M Wired, 142M Buf, 31G Free
>>>>> Swap: 3962M Total, 3962M Free
>>>>>
>>>>>   PID USERNAME    PRI NICE   SIZE    RES STATE    C   TIME    WCPU
>>>>> COMMAND
>>>>>    11 root        155 ki31     0B    64K RUN      2   8:12  99.99%
>>>>> idle{idle: cpu2}
>>>>>    11 root        155 ki31     0B    64K CPU3     3   8:11  99.98%
>>>>> idle{idle: cpu3}
>>>>>    11 root        155 ki31     0B    64K CPU0     0   8:12  99.97%
>>>>> idle{idle: cpu0}
>>>>>    11 root        155 ki31     0B    64K CPU1     1   8:11  99.96%
>>>>> idle{idle: cpu1}
>>>>>     0 root        -76    -     0B   640K -        0   0:00   0.04%
>>>>> kernel{if_config_tqg_0}
>>>>>  1508 stavros      20    0    14M  3812K CPU2     2   0:00   0.02% top
>>>>>  1493 stavros      20    0    15M  5080K select   1   0:00   0.02% tmux
>>>>>    12 root        -60    -     0B   320K WAIT     3   0:01   0.01%
>>>>> intr{swi4: clock (0)}
>>>>>     5 root        -16    -     0B    16K -        0   0:00   0.01%
>>>>> rand_harvestq
>>>>>     6 root        -16    -     0B    48K psleep   0   0:00   0.00%
>>>>> pagedaemon{dom0}
>>>>>  1440 stavros      20    0    21M  9440K select   3   0:00   0.00% sshd
>>>>>  1404 root         20    0    18M  6988K select   2   0:00   0.00%
>>>>> sendmail
>>>>>    15 root        -72    -     0B    96K -        3   0:00   0.00%
>>>>> usb{usbus0}
>>>>>    12 root        -60    -     0B   320K WAIT     2   0:00   0.00%
>>>>> intr{swi4: clock (2)}
>>>>>    12 root        -88    -     0B   320K WAIT     2   0:00   0.00%
>>>>> intr{irq128: xhci0}
>>>>>     8 root         20    -     0B   144K sdflus   3   0:00   0.00%
>>>>> bufdaemon{/ worker}
>>>>>    12 root        -60    -     0B   320K WAIT     1   0:00   0.00%
>>>>> intr{swi4: clock (1)}
>>>>>     0 root        -76    -     0B   640K -        2   0:00   0.00%
>>>>> kernel{if_io_tqg_2}
>>>>>     8 root        -16    -     0B   144K -        1   0:00   0.00%
>>>>> bufdaemon{bufspacedaemon-0}
>>>>>     9 root         16    -     0B    16K syncer   3   0:00   0.00%
>>>>> syncer
>>>>>    12 root        -60    -     0B   320K WAIT     3   0:00   0.00%
>>>>> intr{swi4: clock (3)}
>>>>>     8 root        -16    -     0B   144K psleep   2   0:00   0.00%
>>>>> bufdaemon{bufdaemon}
>>>>>     8 root        -16    -     0B   144K -        0   0:00   0.00%
>>>>> bufdaemon{bufspacedaemon-1}
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Stavros
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 2:03 PM Paul Procacci <pprocacci@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What flags have you included with top?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By default `top` doesn't show any kernel related processes.  `top
>>>>>> -SH`  is useful in this respect and others flags may be useful as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> systat -vmstat
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ^^  Another command that I like.  Also may give you insight.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Paul Procacci
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 4:33 PM Stavros Filargyropoulos <stav@stav.cc>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just installed 13.1 on a system, and the load is at 0.20 at all
>>>>>>> times, although nothing is running and the CPU is 100% free.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> `ps aux` and `top` don't show anything of interest either.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For what's worth it, the motherboard is a Supermicro X12STL-IF and
>>>>>>> the CPU a Xeon 2314.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any ideas/commands that will help me troubleshoot this further?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Stavros
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> __________________
>>>>>>
>>>>>> :(){ :|:& };:
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> __________________
>>>>
>>>> :(){ :|:& };:
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> __________________
>>
>> :(){ :|:& };:
>>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Something doesn&#39;t add up and is bugging me.<br></div><=
br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri,=
 Jan 20, 2023 at 5:08 PM Stavros Filargyropoulos &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:stav=
@stav.cc">stav@stav.cc</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,2=
04);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Well, actually you were not far=
 off.</div><div><br></div><div>The 5 seconds is the interval we look into t=
he run queue:</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://svnweb.freebsd.or=
g/base/head/sys/kern/kern_synch.c?view=3Dmarkup#l87" target=3D"_blank">http=
s://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/head/sys/kern/kern_synch.c?view=3Dmarkup#l87</a=
>.</div><div><br></div><div>The average is still for 1, 5, 15 min. So a loa=
d 0.20 means that out of the 12 times we looked in the run queue the past m=
inute, at least 2.5 there was a job. Which I think is consistent with what =
everyone understands `load` is. And again is not what I see in `top`.</div>=
<div><br></div><div>Unless we count the=C2=A0 `idle` process? Which we shou=
ldn&#39;t...<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at=
 4:56 PM Paul Procacci &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:pprocacci@gmail.com" target=3D=
"_blank">pprocacci@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I&#39;ll concede it proba=
bly isn&#39;t a 5 second window as what I&#39;ve provided is for OpenBSD, b=
ut it&#39;s still a measurement of processes in the run queue - that&#39;s =
for sure.<br></div><div>I&#39;m being lazy and don&#39;t want to look at th=
e source code.=C2=A0 That&#39;s something you could do.</div><div><br></div=
><div>Thanks,</div><div>Paul Procacci<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 7:28=
 PM Stavros Filargyropoulos &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:stav@stav.cc" target=3D"_=
blank">stav@stav.cc</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)=
;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div></div><div>Thanks Paul, but If tha=
t was the case, then running 5 `top -SH` with a refresh of 1 second, should=
 increase the load to x4. Which is not what I see.</div><div><br></div><div=
>This answer seems a bit vague. Is that the best explanation we have? Do yo=
u mean to say that there is not a single freebsd box out there that has a l=
oad of less than 0.20?<br></div><div><br></div><div>I&#39;m pretty sure tha=
t last time I run FreeBSD that wasn&#39;t the case. Also haven&#39;t seen t=
his load in idle system in any other *BSDs.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Th=
anks for taking a look anyway.<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 4:19 PM Pau=
l Procacci &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:pprocacci@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">ppr=
ocacci@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);pa=
dding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>Stavros,</div><div><br></div>Loa=
d averages by themselves mean very little.<br></div><div>It&#39;s not a fig=
ure of cpu usage if that&#39;s what you&#39;re worried about.</div><div><br=
></div><div>Load averages on BSD are simply processes which have wanted to =
run at=20
least once in the most recent 5-second window, with a degradation over=20
time.[1]<br><br></div><div>Unless you&#39;re having a specific problem, I&#=
39;d guess to say there is no problem here at all.</div><div><br></div><div=
>Thanks,</div><div>Paul Procacci</div><div><br></div><div>[1] - <a href=3D"=
http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=3Darticle&amp;sid=3D20090715034920" targ=
et=3D"_blank">http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=3Darticle&amp;sid=3D200907=
15034920</a></div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
 class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 6:59 PM Stavros Filargyropoul=
os &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:stav@stav.cc" target=3D"_blank">stav@stav.cc</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0p=
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 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A07 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 7 100 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A052 frevn =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0intrn =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 nvme0:io1<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0355M wire =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0nvme0:io2<br>Disks=
 =C2=A0nvd0 =C2=A0ada0 =C2=A0ada1 =C2=A0ada2 =C2=A0ada3 =C2=A0ada4 =C2=A0 d=
a0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 17M act =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 nvme0:io3<br>KB=
/t =C2=A016.00 =C2=A00.00 =C2=A00.00 =C2=A00.00 =C2=A00.00 =C2=A00.00 =C2=
=A00.00 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 2880K inact =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 igb0:rxq0<br>tps =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 laun=
d =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 igb0:rxq1<br>MB/s =C2=A0 0.01 =C2=A00.00 =C2=A00.00 =
=C2=A00.00 =C2=A00.00 =C2=A00.00 =C2=A00.00 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 31G free =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A01 igb0:rxq2<br>%busy =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0142M buf =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 igb0:rxq3<br=
><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 igb0:aq</div><div><br></div><div>And the output=
 of `top -SH` for reference:<br></div><div><br></div><div>last pid: =C2=A01=
508; =C2=A0load averages: =C2=A00.25, =C2=A00.22, =C2=A00.10 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 up 0+00:08:13 =C2=A015:57:54<br>131 threads=
: =C2=A0 5 running, 106 sleeping, 20 waiting<br>CPU: =C2=A00.1% user, =C2=
=A00.0% nice, =C2=A00.0% system, =C2=A00.0% interrupt, 99.9% idle<br>Mem: 1=
6M Active, 3032K Inact, 355M Wired, 142M Buf, 31G Free<br>Swap: 3962M Total=
, 3962M Free<br><br>=C2=A0 PID USERNAME =C2=A0 =C2=A0PRI NICE =C2=A0 SIZE =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0RES STATE =C2=A0 =C2=A0C =C2=A0 TIME =C2=A0 =C2=A0WCPU COMMAND=
<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A011 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0155 ki31 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
0B =C2=A0 =C2=A064K RUN =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A02 =C2=A0 8:12 =C2=A099.99% idle=
{idle: cpu2}<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A011 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0155 ki31 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 =C2=A064K CPU3 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 3 =C2=A0 8:11 =C2=A099=
.98% idle{idle: cpu3}<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A011 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A015=
5 ki31 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 =C2=A064K CPU0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 8:12 =
=C2=A099.97% idle{idle: cpu0}<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A011 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0155 ki31 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 =C2=A064K CPU1 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 1 =C2=
=A0 8:11 =C2=A099.96% idle{idle: cpu1}<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 root =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-76 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 640K - =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.04% kernel{if_config_tqg_0}<br>=
=C2=A01508 stavros =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A020 =C2=A0 =C2=A00 =C2=A0 =C2=A014M =
=C2=A03812K CPU2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 2 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.02% top<br>=C2=A01493=
 stavros =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A020 =C2=A0 =C2=A00 =C2=A0 =C2=A015M =C2=A05080K=
 select =C2=A0 1 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.02% tmux<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A012 root =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-60 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 320K WAI=
T =C2=A0 =C2=A0 3 =C2=A0 0:01 =C2=A0 0.01% intr{swi4: clock (0)}<br>=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 5 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-16 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0=
B =C2=A0 =C2=A016K - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.01% =
rand_harvestq<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 6 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-16 =C2=A0=
 =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 =C2=A048K psleep =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=
=A0 0.00% pagedaemon{dom0}<br>=C2=A01440 stavros =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A020 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A00 =C2=A0 =C2=A021M =C2=A09440K select =C2=A0 3 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0=
 0.00% sshd<br>=C2=A01404 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 20 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=
0 =C2=A0 =C2=A018M =C2=A06988K select =C2=A0 2 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.00% sen=
dmail<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A015 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-72 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-=
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 =C2=A096K - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A03 =C2=A0 0:=
00 =C2=A0 0.00% usb{usbus0}<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A012 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0-60 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 320K WAIT =C2=A0 =C2=A0 2 =
=C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.00% intr{swi4: clock (2)}<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A012 root =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-88 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 320K WAI=
T =C2=A0 =C2=A0 2 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.00% intr{irq128: xhci0}<br>=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 8 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 20 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0=
B =C2=A0 144K sdflus =C2=A0 3 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.00% bufdaemon{/ worker}<=
br>=C2=A0 =C2=A012 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-60 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 320K WAIT =C2=A0 =C2=A0 1 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.00% int=
r{swi4: clock (1)}<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-76 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 640K - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A02 =
=C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.00% kernel{if_io_tqg_2}<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 8 root =C2=A0=
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-16 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 144K - =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A01 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.00% bufdaemon{bufspacedaemon=
-0}<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 9 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 16 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 =C2=A016K syncer =C2=A0 3 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.00% =
syncer<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A012 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-60 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=
- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 320K WAIT =C2=A0 =C2=A0 3 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.00=
% intr{swi4: clock (3)}<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 8 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=
-16 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 144K psleep =C2=A0 2 =C2=A0 0:00=
 =C2=A0 0.00% bufdaemon{bufdaemon}<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 8 root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0-16 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B =C2=A0 144K - =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00 =C2=A0 0:00 =C2=A0 0.00% bufdaemon{bufspacedaemon-1}</di=
v><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Stavros<br></div></div><br><br><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Jan 20=
, 2023 at 2:03 PM Paul Procacci &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:pprocacci@gmail.com" =
target=3D"_blank">pprocacci@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px soli=
d rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>What flags have =
you included with top?</div><div><br></div><div>By default `top` doesn&#39;=
t show any kernel related processes.=C2=A0 `top -SH`=C2=A0 is useful in thi=
s respect and others flags may be useful as well.</div><div><br></div><div>=
systat -vmstat <br><br></div><div>^^=C2=A0 Another command that I like.=C2=
=A0 Also may give you insight.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>P=
aul Procacci<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
 class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 4:33 PM Stavros Filargyropoul=
os &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:stav@stav.cc" target=3D"_blank">stav@stav.cc</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0p=
x 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi,</div><div><br></div><div>I just installed 13.1 on a sys=
tem, and the load is at 0.20 at all times, although nothing is running and =
the CPU is 100% free.</div><div><br></div><div>`ps aux` and `top` don&#39;t=
 show anything of interest either.</div><div><br></div><div>For what&#39;s =
worth it, the motherboard is a Supermicro
X12STL-IF and the CPU a Xeon 2314.</div><div><br></div><div>Any ideas/comma=
nds that will help me troubleshoot this further?</div><div><br></div><div>T=
hanks,</div><div>Stavros<br></div></div>
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