Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 22:07:37 -0700 From: Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com> To: Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com> Cc: Andrei <az@azsupport.com>, "freebsd-x11@freebsd.org" <freebsd-x11@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: gfx-next update: drm-4.8-rc2 tagged in drm-next Message-ID: <CAN6yY1vPzjvMyc%2Bxxs587EpwgGe6%2BCAdXqYjw66YjZafT4YUfg@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20160927015534.GA1345@lonesome.com> References: <CAGhTqAXdNBTbdvSzBUFaOMY10jEMy6MehNqN%2BFfdZVpZ5Y1Rbg@mail.gmail.com> <439e20fa-6385-68fb-c97e-24705ebd2f94@nomadlogic.org> <157496f7268.ac5eb5ca278618.8741026532558973404@nextbsd.org> <3FEE7DD3-C408-4398-9F0B-5529B2E7A61F@transactionware.com> <1574b8980bc.106a6e9ef306540.4216158444646545056@nextbsd.org> <20160926192637.33f7921b@azsupport.com> <157683d1ec0.11a09775b76996.945490951353894015@nextbsd.org> <20160927031041.31b6f90a@azsupport.com> <157693fc60a.ebf27bd286215.2625530085502855667@nextbsd.org> <20160927033819.2670e3f1@azsupport.com> <20160927015534.GA1345@lonesome.com>
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OK. It's time to cut this crap out! This is why people talk about FreeBSD development being a hostile place. This sort of thing is why! If you want to discourage competent people from working on FreeBSD, this is an excellent way. For years the FreeBSD support for X has lagged way behind. This was true even before things like KMS made it much harder for for FreeBSD to track development. The FreeBSD Foundation has had to hire people to move FreeBSD to just a three or four years. Or, in computer years, about a two or three decades. Now someone comes along and puts in the amazing amount of work into moving FreeBSD's X to a point that is very near the state of the art and move the infrastructure it sits on to one that is sufficiently maintainable so that FreeBSD can hope to stay there. The people who did this are not people who have a history of major FreeBSD contributions and have a real desire to help FreeBSD as well as its derivatives. They do the work. They work with FreeBSD on the freebsd-x11@ users to get testing done, and, when it looks good, submit it to Phabricator for review, and ask for review. NextBSD was never mentioned and suddenly someone jumps up and yells "Go away. We don't serve your kind here!". Just because he works on NextBSD. Tell you what... move it to freebsd-advacocy@ where this sort of thing belongs or just go away. Let Matthew get this done. If anyone is banned from the list, it's Andrei. (And I am NOT advocating that.) Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683 On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 6:55 PM, Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com> wrote: > On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 03:38:19AM +0200, Andrei wrote: > > If you really want to help FreeBSD community, then don't talk bullshit > > and send patches to CURRENT. > > Phabricator is an official project resource. > > It and FreeBSD's Bugzilla instance are the recommended ways to submit > patches for review. > > Postings to mailing lists can be overlooked due to all the noise. > > mcl > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-x11@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-x11 > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-x11-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >
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