Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 09:43:45 -0600 From: Daniel Robbins <drobbins@funtoo.org> To: Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Cc: "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Replacing rc(8) (Was: FreeBSD Boot Times) Message-ID: <CAPDOV4_ufNGyheDAhPxfndJ7WtH_u=5z7mrLtW-5-a9BMbCswg@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1206201722520.1856@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <4FDF6177.5050608@unsane.co.uk> <4FDF6586.9060501@gentoo.org> <4FDFB166.2040709@FreeBSD.org> <4FDFB44D.9090308@gentoo.org> <4FE0ADCD.9010109@FreeBSD.org> <4FE0C123.8030301@gentoo.org> <CAGH67wRidMZrzjzTSdwud%2BZ5V--wOTN8CHXOWcOr%2BE5XHYo2rA@mail.gmail.com> <4FE0F773.1080403@gentoo.org> <CAGH67wQdb-c0Kf=60rkaJSH8Hd0OjwCi=rQQMzGq8xfp2q7b=Q@mail.gmail.com> <4FE100F9.2050009@funtoo.org> <20120620073920.GA5300@lonesome.com> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1206201618560.75278@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <CAPDOV49kkOdeV%2B6LVW5j5PO6VYrrNVqWZEksc_GzvWHjbufoAQ@mail.gmail.com> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1206201722520.1856@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
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On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:28 AM, Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> wrote: > > Whatever benefits are, and for sure they are think of this: > > 1) can it be compatible with 20000 ports already made for FreeBSD, where > many of them install rc.d scripts in CURRENT format. OK. This will clearly be needed, and shouldn't take too much time to investigate. > 2) is the problem 1 worth of slight improvement over already good, but > certainly not perfect rc.d subsystem. Yes, clearly OpenRC will need to offer significant improvements to make it worthwhile to justify migrating over to it. So let me know if you have any ideas for anything that would be considered more than just a slight improvement, that would make you go "OK, now it's seriously worth considering OpenRC as this is more than just a nominal improvement in functionality." > If someone would like to make new ports subsystem from scratch then it would > be great. Would you like to ? ;) I know you are joking, but in all seriousness, this is another area of potential collaboration, because at some point I will be looking to significantly improve Portage. And Gentoo and Funtoo have the same challenging of upgrading ports systems -- there's so much stuff that already uses our *existing* ports system that needs to be moved over. There are creative solutions to this problem that I have found. So it's a good idea to stay in touch :) > when i would have million dollars handy call me and find these 20 people ;) I have some ideas that should make it possible to transition ports systems with less effort than this. But this isn't related to the current thread :) Best Regards, Daniel
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