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Date:      Thu, 5 Jun 2008 18:31:10 +0100
From:      "Steven Hartland" <killing@multiplay.co.uk>
To:        "Paul Schmehl" <pschmehl_lists_nada@tx.rr.com>, <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Jo Rhett <jrhett@netconsonance.com>, Peter Jeremy <peterjeremy@optushome.com.au>
Subject:   Re: challenge: end of life for 6.2 is premature with buggy 6.3
Message-ID:  <F73107AC17D94624BEAD24A987EE1926@multiplay.co.uk>
References:  <9B7FE91B-9C2E-4732-866C-930AC6022A40@netconsonance.com><48472DB6.5030909@samsco.org><6010676B-91B0-4AF8-ACF8-039A59B29331@netconsonance.com><200806050248.59229.max@love2party.net><B9B83C12-7130-490D-A4BE-0469711B24DC@netconsonance.com><20080605083907.GD1028@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <902E9703E6E50776A17E9F92@utd65257.utdallas.edu>

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Schmehl" <pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com>

> That is a blatant lie.  He has stated repeatedly that there are *known* bugs, 
> complete with bug reports, that are not resolved and that affect the hardware 
> he uses.  He has also stated that there is no need for him to provide further 
> evidence of an already documented bug, yet he is willing to provide equipment 
> with 6.3 RELEASE installed if any developer needs a platform to test and 
> troubleshoot the bugs.

Unforunately to now he has totally avoided telling anyone what said BUG's,
PR's etc are, even when asked on several occasions. Instead he continues
down the line of "I dont have time or resources to test your fixes so just
make it work ffs!" just not in so many words.

I'm just a user here, but if something is a show stopper for us I work
with anyone who is able to help us resolve the issue. This has proved
very successful, in particular one case springs to mind where we worked
with HighPoint support to fix a serious corruption issue with 1820a
under FreeBSD.

I have no sympathy for anyone who's going to moan about a previous release
being desupported that isn't willing to put the effort in to make the
issues they are seeing get fixed.

    Regards
    Steve

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