Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 07:48:50 -0500 From: "Jeff Lawton" <jeff@idealso.com> To: "Server Admin" <admin@sage-one.net>, <linux-user@egr.msu.edu>, <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: RE: [GLLUG] Re: apcups Message-ID: <NFBBJDLNADNIPCNOAPMHAEJBCFAA.jeff@idealso.com> In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20020314215200.01178868@mail.sage-one.net>
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I do not have a file /var/log/apcupsd.events. the shell script runs at boot
with no screen messages. yes the the cable is the # on the cable. you are
correct about the apcupsd not starting in smart mode without a connection.
The docs said that if a connection is lost with a dumb ups apcupsd would not
know. I also tryed apctest and it does not tell me anything. is there any
way I can check the serial port from the comand prompt?
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From: Server Admin [mailto:admin@sage-one.net]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 10:52 PM
To: jeff@idealso.com; linux-user@egr.msu.edu;
freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: RE: [GLLUG] Re: apcups
Jeff: No, sio0 is not the device. You should be using this:
"DEVICE /dev/ttyd0" # For com 1
Then make sure you have the right cable number which is found on the flat
side of the connector. I gather that is where you got the number used.
Otherwise your configuration looks correct.
When starting the daemon, look at #tail -f /var/log/apcupsd.events and see
what is happening. If it shows no errors and that "startup succeeded" then
you have the right device assigned. It will not start with the wrong com
port device and show an error in the log.
I'm afraid with a "dumb UPS" you are not going to see much more.... maybe
some one else has some tricks I don't know about... I'd like to learn about
them too because I have several "dummies" here.
I've overcome the problem as said before by using a APC smartups as a
master on one machine and the dummies as "slaves" on the other machines. The
master can signal the other machines on the network to shut down after a
designated amount of time (well within the limits of the battery of course).
Thus, the dummies (through the apcupsd daemons on them) do what they are
told to do by the master. You can set the timeouts on each machine.
At 10:29 PM 3.14.2002 -0500, Jeff Lawton wrote:
>>>>
Yes i looked throught the apcupsd site and most of the documentation is
about smart ups and the backups is a dumb one. I checked the bios and
everything there is fine. can i access sio0 directly or will that not work?
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From: Server Admin [mailto:admin@sage-one.net]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 6:42 PM
To: jeff@idealso.com; linux-user@egr.msu.edu;
freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: RE: [GLLUG] Re: apcups
Jeff: First, have you visited the very thorough website at:
http://www.apcupsd.org/
It has almost everything you want to know.
BUT, I have tried many different types of UPSes and I could only get the
APC Smart-UPS models to actually "talk" to the system and give out data
about the battery. If you have the Backups, I think it is among the "dumb
UPSes" that are described in the documentation and very limited on the cable
signals. If you pull off the cable, you *may* be told it sensed a break, but
as far as any useful data...???
Again, I will never buy anything BUT an APC Smart-UPS.... if I want to
communicate with it. The so-called "dumb UPSes" are okay IF you have a
smart-ups running on the network to monitor things and tell the ones without
ability to shut down. At least the dumb ones will sense a power outage and
run the machines long enough to save files and shut down.... I may be wrong
about your model, but don't think so....
At 05:55 PM 3.14.2002 -0500, Jeff Lawton wrote:
>>>>
I am using apcupsd from the ports collection on comm 1 and with APC,s
serial cable 940-0020C that came with the unit and freebsd 4.5. I have tried
both cuaa0 and ttyd0 without success. the ups is feeding a lightbulb and
when I unplug the ups I get no messages, any ideals?
Here is a copy of the conf file.am I missing something ?
## apcupsd.conf v1.1 ##
UPSCABLE 940-0020C
UPSTYPE backups
DEVICE /dev/ttyd0
LOCKFILE /var/apcups/lock
UPSCLASS standalone
UPSMODE disable
ANNOY 10
ANNOYDELAY 20
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From: linux-user-admin@egr.msu.edu
[mailto:linux-user-admin@egr.msu.edu]On Behalf Of Server Admin
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 4:28 PM
To: jeff@idealso.com; linux-user@egr.msu.edu;
freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: [GLLUG] Re: apcups
Try /dev/ttyd0
At 03:55 PM 3.14.2002 -0500, Jeff Lawton wrote:
>>>>
I am setting up a APC backups 650 on a freebsd box. It does not seem
to be communicating. Is there a different device I should be using other
than cuaa0?
Jeff Lawton
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Best regards,
Jack L. Stone
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not have a file /var/log/apcupsd.events. the shell script runs at boot with no
screen messages. yes the the cable is the # on the cable. you are correct about
the apcupsd not starting in smart mode without a connection. The docs said that
if a connection is lost with a dumb ups apcupsd would not know. I also
tryed apctest and it does not tell me anything. is there any way I can
check the serial port from the comand prompt?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Server Admin
[mailto:admin@sage-one.net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 14, 2002 10:52
PM<BR><B>To:</B> jeff@idealso.com; linux-user@egr.msu.edu;
freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [GLLUG] Re:
apcups<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Jeff: No, sio0 is not the device. You should be
using this:<BR>"DEVICE /dev/ttyd0" # For com 1<BR>Then make sure you have the
right cable number which is found on the flat side of the connector. I gather
that is where you got the number used. Otherwise your configuration looks
correct.<BR><BR>When starting the daemon, look at #tail -f
/var/log/apcupsd.events and see what is happening. If it shows no errors and
that "startup succeeded" then you have the right device assigned. It will not
start with the wrong com port device and show an error in the log.<BR><BR>I'm
afraid with a "dumb UPS" you are not going to see much more.... maybe some one
else has some tricks I don't know about... I'd like to learn about them too
because I have several "dummies" here.<BR><BR>I've overcome the problem as
said before by using a APC smartups as a master on one machine and the dummies
as "slaves" on the other machines. The master can signal the other machines on
the network to shut down after a designated amount of time (well within the
limits of the battery of course). Thus, the dummies (through the apcupsd
daemons on them) do what they are told to do by the master. You can set the
timeouts on each machine.<BR><BR>At 10:29 PM 3.14.2002 -0500, Jeff Lawton
wrote: <BR>>>>><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?color><?param 0000,0000,ffff><?smaller>Yes
i looked throught the apcupsd site and most of the documentation is about
smart ups and the backups is a dumb one. I checked the bios and everything
there is fine. can i access sio0 directly or will that not work?<BR><?/smaller><?/color><?/fontfamily>
<BLOCKQUOTE><?fontfamily><?param Tahoma><?smaller>-----Original
Message-----<BR><?/smaller><?/fontfamily><B>From:</B> Server Admin
[mailto:admin@sage-one.net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 14, 2002 6:42
PM<BR><B>To:</B> jeff@idealso.com; linux-user@egr.msu.edu;
freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [GLLUG] Re:
apcups<BR><BR>Jeff: First, have you visited the very thorough website
at:<BR>http://www.apcupsd.org/<BR><BR>It has almost everything you want to
know.<BR><BR>BUT, I have tried many different types of UPSes and I could
only get the APC Smart-UPS models to actually "talk" to the system and give
out data about the battery. If you have the Backups, I think it is among the
"dumb UPSes" that are described in the documentation and very limited on the
cable signals. If you pull off the cable, you *may* be told it sensed a
break, but as far as any useful data...???<BR><BR>Again, I will never buy
anything BUT an APC Smart-UPS.... if I want to communicate with it. The
so-called "dumb UPSes" are okay IF you have a smart-ups running on the
network to monitor things and tell the ones without ability to shut down. At
least the dumb ones will sense a power outage and run the machines long
enough to save files and shut down.... I may be wrong about your model, but
don't think so....<BR><BR>At 05:55 PM 3.14.2002 -0500, Jeff Lawton wrote:
<BR>>>>><BR>I am using apcupsd from the ports collection on comm
1 and with APC,s serial cable 940-0020C that came with the unit and freebsd
4.5. I have tried both cuaa0 and ttyd0 without success. the ups is feeding a
lightbulb and when I unplug the ups I get no messages, any
ideals?<BR><BR>Here is a copy of the conf file.am I missing something ?
<BR><BR>## apcupsd.conf v1.1 ##<BR>UPSCABLE 940-0020C<BR>UPSTYPE
backups<BR>DEVICE /dev/ttyd0<BR>LOCKFILE /var/apcups/lock<BR>UPSCLASS
standalone<BR>UPSMODE disable<BR>ANNOY 10<BR>ANNOYDELAY 20<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
linux-user-admin@egr.msu.edu [mailto:linux-user-admin@egr.msu.edu]<B>On
Behalf Of </B>Server Admin<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 14, 2002 4:28
PM<BR><B>To:</B> jeff@idealso.com; linux-user@egr.msu.edu;
freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG<BR><B>Subject:</B> [GLLUG] Re:
apcups<BR><BR>Try /dev/ttyd0<BR><BR>At 03:55 PM 3.14.2002 -0500, Jeff
Lawton wrote: <BR>>>>><BR><BR><BR>I am setting up a APC
backups 650 on a freebsd box. It does not seem to be communicating. Is
there a different device I should be using other than
cuaa0?<BR><BR><BR><BR>Jeff
Lawton<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><<<<<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>....
our website: http://www.sage-one.net/<BR><BR>Best regards,<BR><BR>Jack L.
Stone<BR>Server Admin _______________________________________________
linux-user mailing list linux-user@egr.msu.edu
http://www.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user
<BR><BR><BR><<<<<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>.... our website:
http://www.sage-one.net/<BR><BR>Best regards,<BR><BR>Jack L.
Stone<BR>Server Admin
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