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Date:      Wed, 25 Sep 2002 17:30:52 -0500
From:      Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com
To:        Stephen Hovey <shovey@buffnet.net>
Cc:        freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   RE: aol postmaster
Message-ID:  <OF0B42B733.2D45BDC0-ON86256C3F.007BA2FF@kka.com>

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Nah I tested myself even using the % weirdness and my box still spits back
Relaying Not Allowed.

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Eric Stanfield, K2Access
Keno Kozie Associates
222 N LaSalle #1500
Chicago, IL 60606
(312) 332-3000




                                                                                        
                    Stephen Hovey                                                       
                    <shovey@buffn        To:     Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com           
                    et.net>              cc:     freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG                
                                         Subject:     RE: aol postmaster                
                    09/25/2002                                                          
                    05:30 PM                                                            
                                                                                        
                                                                                        




Did you try puttin that IP thru ordb?

Its possible the conditions arent reported correctly by aol, but might be
via ordb..

I had a couple of upgraded machine suddenly vulnerable to the % bull..
took me ages but found a worka round.

On Wed, 25 Sep 2002 Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com wrote:

>
> Now some poor sap will be searching through usenet, stumble across our
> topic, and just see 15 posts of commiseration with no magic number for
AOL
> heh.
>
> As far as I can tell, AOL's script sucks.  My server is not open to relay
> so the only thing I can hope to do is contact them directly (since they
> ignore all emails I've sent over the last 3 months), continue to change
the
> things ip address every once in a while, or ultimately sue them (and
> continue to change ip's for the 2 years it takes to come to settlement
> heheh).
>
> Thanks for all the responses.
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>
> Eric Stanfield, K2Access
> Keno Kozie Associates
> 222 N LaSalle #1500
> Chicago, IL 60606
> (312) 332-3000
>
>
>
>
>

>                     "Dave

>                     [Hawk-Systems]"            To:     "Denny Reiter"
<denny@reiters.org>,
>                     <dave@hawk-systems.        "Ralph Forsythe"
<rf-list@centerone.com>
>                     com>                       cc:
<Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com>,
>                     Sent by:                   <freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG>

>                     owner-freebsd-isp@F        Subject:     RE: aol
postmaster
>                     reeBSD.ORG

>

>

>                     09/25/2002 03:14 PM

>

>

>
>
>
> >> The idea of AOL testing servers to cut down on SPAM is rather amusing
to
> >> me.  I always thought that unless an AOL account was used for mass
> >> emailings, they took a hands-off approach to the issue.  SPAM
detection
> is
> >> better left to things like spamassassin anyway.
> >
> >Yes, AOL does indeed test SMTP servers for open relays and then
> >blacklists them if they aren't fixed.  We've been notified about a
> >couple that customers on our network had set up.
>
> Nice to be so big that you are immune to criticism...  You can block
> spammers,
> and yet are the source for a large amount of the spam yourself.  Not like
> we can
> all just block AOL and call it even.  :(
>
> On that note though, doesn't take much to batton down your SMTP servers
so
> they
> are not an open relay, then if they block you, sue for anti-competitive
> practices or something.
>
> Dave
>
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