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Date:      Mon, 12 Jul 2004 13:55:43 -0700 (PDT)
From:      John Polstra <jdp@polstra.com>
To:        Robert Watson <rwatson@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: kldload won't load
Message-ID:  <XFMail.20040712135543.jdp@polstra.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.NEB.3.96L.1040712164608.52015D-100000@fledge.watson.org>

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On 12-Jul-2004 Robert Watson wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 12 Jul 2004, John Polstra wrote:
> 
>> No, it needs to be fixed.  It's printing a totally incorrect error
>> message, and nobody should have to use dmesg to find out what's really
>> happened. 
> 
> Well, the problem here is that the errno error-reporting mechanism can
> report but not describe errors.  We could add a new EKLDLINKER to point at
> a linker error (or the like), or a whole set of new errnos, but the
> mechanism even then couldn't report which symbols are missing, etc.  One
> or more linker-specific error values would probably be a useful start.

I fully understand the implementation difficulties, but we have to
be careful to observe the distinction between correct behavior and
easy-to-implement behavior.  The kldload(2) API doesn't support
correct behavior, so that's where the focus needs to be -- not on
making users feel stupid for failing to look in the dmesg output.

John



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