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Date:      Wed, 15 Nov 2023 21:17:23 -0700
From:      Rich Reynolds <rich@redstar-assoc.com>
To:        Glen Barber <gjb@freebsd.org>
Cc:        FreeBSD Release Engineering Team <re@freebsd.org>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule
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In-Reply-To: <23a4bd83-dca4-4e76-a513-9df6671d930d@nomadlogic.org>
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On 11/15/23 20:19, Pete Wright wrote:
> 
> 
> On 11/15/23 16:30, Glen Barber wrote:
>> The alternative would be to say nothing at all.
>>
>> Either way, it is a productivity, communication drain.  It is
>> a lose-lose situation no matter how one looks at it given the above
>> context.  We either get chastised for being "too open" into insights
>> delaying an official announcement, or for being "not open enough" when
>> there is silence from RE when a release does not meet its scheduled
>> announcement date.
> Glen I appreciate your transparency and the efforts you have done to 
> keep everyone in the loop.  I think people get excited about new 
> releases, which is probably a good thing.  IMHO i feel you've been 
> striking a good balance.
> 
> As an operator these updates are really helpful for me as it allows me 
> to adjust timelines on my end for updating my fleet of servers. You and 
> the RE team do an incredible job - and personally I am thankful for the 
> caution and common sense you all bring to this complex process.
> 
> Cheers,
> -pete
> 
> -- 
> Pete Wright
> pete@nomadlogic.org
> @nomadlogicLA
> 
+1 from a retired RE manager
yet another hard thankless job in the development chain...

-- 
When you beleve in things. that you don't understand,
then you suffer, superstition ain't the way.
Stevie Wonder - 1972



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