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Date:      Mon, 7 Jul 2014 14:01:32 -0600 (MDT)
From:      Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com>
To:        Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au>
Cc:        John Marshall <john.marshall@riverwillow.com.au>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Should 9.3 carry a warning about NEW_XORG
Message-ID:  <alpine.BSF.2.11.1407071357340.87353@wonkity.com>
In-Reply-To: <20140706220006.K50382@sola.nimnet.asn.au>
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On Sun, 6 Jul 2014, Ian Smith wrote:

> It seems that if you upgrade from 9.1 or 9.2 you will need to manually
> intervene, either way .. please correct any incorrect assumptions:
>
> . if you don't wish your ports updated to new Xorg you'll need to add
> WITHOUT_NEW_XORG to make.conf before updating any relevant ports, though
> - inconsistently? - any installed packages, including those on the DVD,
> will still be for old Xorg.  Until you are sure this is the safer way -
> but you have to know about it when upgrading.
>
> . if you do want ports updated to new Xorg and you have older graphics
> hardware you'll need to compile a VT kernel to get vt switching from X
> back .. and you'll need to add the new repo to get new Xorg packages.
>
> Seeing that a perhaps not miniscule proportion of 9.x X users will need
> to do some manual configuration on upgrading to 9.3, a relevant WARNING
> in http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.3R/relnotes.html should be helpful.

I can agree with the idea of a note, just have no clear idea what it 
should say.  If people are shown how to stick with the old xorg, they 
will be marooned and ports that require the newer version will not work. 
People that upgrade may find their hardware no longer supported.  That's 
sort of the price of progress with technology.



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