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Date:      Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:14:46 -0700
From:      Freddie Cash <fjwcash@gmail.com>
To:        current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Hal and KDM breakage (was Re: KDE4 and input events stalled)
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On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@freebsd.org> wrot=
e:
> On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 16:53 -0700, Tim Kientzle wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@freebsd.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 It's not a question of what hal is doing, bu=
t rather how
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 console-kit
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 works (and hald depends on console-kit-daemo=
n). =C2=A0It needs to
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 be able to
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 monitor each of the active vtys...
>>
>> This is the part of the picture I'm still missing. =C2=A0*Why* does
>> hald (via console-kit) care about tracking active vtys?
>> (I presume hald actually doesn't care but that some client
>> of hald needs this information.... ???)
>
> ConsoleKit monitors the vtys for active changes so it can provide
> consumers such as hal and PolicyKit information about active sessions.
> In particular, hal uses CK to determine if a user is currently logged in
> on the console, and if so, allows that user to mount certain volumes
> that would otherwise not be allowed.
>
>>
>>
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 .... =C2=A0Bland did some work to correct th=
is in -CURRENT, but it
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 won't work on other versions. =C2=A0It was j=
ust easier to leave the
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 hack in
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 place.
>>
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 If this could be universally fixed in all su=
pported versions
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 of FreeBSD,
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 then I would be happy to remove the hacks.
>>
>> I'm still curious whether it's feasible to just not monitor the vtys.
>
> Sure, you can try it. =C2=A0Especially if you're not using GNOME, this mi=
ght
> be fine. =C2=A0Just remove the hacks from hald's rc.d script.

Doesn't work, at least not in my quick-n-dirty testing, using the kdm4
script I just posted.  If you remove the lshal checks, then the
keyboard doesn't work once kdm starts.

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Freddie Cash
fjwcash@gmail.com



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