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Date:      Thu, 8 Feb 2007 17:29:51 +0300
From:      "Andrew Pantyukhin" <infofarmer@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Fluffles <etc@fluffles.net>
Cc:        rsh <bsdgroup.md@gmail.com>, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: External HDD
Message-ID:  <cb5206420702080629p237800f2xc80c1c3f3554f3f0@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <45CB2DE8.1090609@fluffles.net>
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On 2/8/07, Fluffles <etc@fluffles.net> wrote:
> Andrew Pantyukhin wrote:
> > On 2/7/07, Fluffles <etc@fluffles.net> wrote:
> >> rsh wrote:
> >> > Hi
> >> >
> >> > For backup purposes, i need removable HDD, connected through USB or
> >> > Fireware
> >> >
> >> > I'm really impressed by Transcend solution and would like to use their
> >> > Transcend 1.8" Portable HDD 20 GB, USB 2.0
> >> > It takes power directly from USB.
> >> >
> >> > Did somebody have success with this device?
> >> >
> >> > If it is a bad idea, any suggestions for External HDD ?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >>
> >> Why would you want 1,8" ? That is very small indeed, but very limited as
> >> well and expensive. You might as well buy a 2,5" (notebook) drive with
> >> enclosure, that would just be recognised by FreeBSD as USB mass storage
> >> device (umass) and works perfectly with me. Also most 2,5" enclosures
> >> allow for USB power so only 1 cable is needed; though often they provide
> >> an additional power supply if you use a 7200rpm drive which uses a lot
> >> of power. My advice: go for Samsung 5400rpm drives they are very
> >> power-efficient and still quite fast.
> >
> > 1.8"? 2.5"?
>
> 1,8" are extremely small drives; like compactflash models or so
> 2,5" are regular notebook drives -- too very small
> 3,5" are, as you know, regular drives.
>
> The problem is, 3,5" drives use a lot of power (some 30W spinup); you
> cannot pull that much from USB cable so external enclosures for 3,5"
> drives will have a power adapter; this makes two cables while rsh wanted
> just one cable; you can only do that with 2,5" and below. So i recommend
> 2,5" drives.

Sure, sure, I just wanted to continue the lineup of
sizes. Maybe somebody will come up with 5,25" and
portable multi-bay NAS solutions :-)

BTW, many 2,5" enclosures I've seen require two usb
ports, the second one just to get more power. I
imagine you could get 30W from 12 dedicated USB ports
:-)

> > I have a Sarotech Hardbox enclosure for 3.5"
> > drives and I prefer using Seagate drives inside.
>
> Seagate gets rather hot; Samsung is a lot better in that respect.

That's what I'm saying, Seagate is hot! But seriously,
fanless enclosures are a problem with any drive.

Hmm, Samsung 3,5" drives are rather cheap these days,
look like a bargain to me. I remember they were regarded
as a bit slow, but stable some years ago, wonder if that
is still true...



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