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Date:      Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:34:40 -0500
From:      John Sconiers <jsconiers@gmail.com>
To:        Guido Falsi <mad@madpilot.net>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: boot banner project
Message-ID:  <d904a5e705042912342621236b@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <20050429105416.GA94049@wedge.madpilot.net>
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What is the goal of FreeBSD, it's user community, it's developer and
it's supporting companies / businesses , etc? FreeBSD offers advanced
networking, performance, security and compatibility features today
....or at least that's whats on the web page but is one of the goals
to increase it's user and developer base?  Is this happening?  Several
years ago after being a FreeBSD fan / contributor since ~1995 I left
FreeBSD because I didn't have the time with kids and all.  During that
time I was a unix / storage ps guy for two fortune 500 companies (One
was a vendor of another Unix OS).  I was also "forced" to work with
Linux in production settings. I come back ~three years later and on
the surface things haven't changed.  The boot banner, installation
program,  etc, etc, hasn't changed.  I know there have been many
updates and advanced features added to FreeBSD. Plainly put we need to
include items such as the boot banner not only becasue it can be done
but because it can attract and keep more users.  Adding less then a
meg here or there is not bloat.  Unless of course the goal is to
create an advanced operating system unable to get / keep users.

My $.02

On 4/29/05, Guido Falsi <mad@madpilot.net> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 02:08:00PM -0700, /dev/null wrote:
> > Hello,
> >  As this is an RFC (I'm sure you already know that).
> >
> > Long answer:
> > I'm not quite sure. It will depend on the amount and content
> > of the comments. Technically, it may not start ever (because
> > everyone/ or nearly everyone says it SUX).
> >
> > Short answer:
> >  Too early for me to say.
>=20
> On this proposal, I think that some graphic banner while booting could
> be beautiful to the eye, but quite void in usefullness. I'm not against
> it, but can't see any real advantage. Anyway if someone feels like
> spending some time on this feature and the results does not bring any
> regression to the system I don't see why it should not be offered as an
> option.
>=20
> On the other hand I think some tidying up in the rc sctripts boot
> messages would really REALLY be a good idea. I don't mean anything
> drastic, just that in 5.x(as was altready pointed out) the output is a
> bit messy, and even if I can sort it out uite clearly out of habit, it
> would be better if it was a bit more structured and ordered.
>=20
> My 2 cents...nothing more, nothing less.
>=20
> --
> Guido Falsi <mad@madpilot.net>
>=20
>=20
>



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