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Date:      Wed, 14 May 2025 17:34:10 -0600
From:      Rebecca Cran <rebecca@bsdio.com>
To:        Mark McBride <mark@markmcb.com>, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Proposed revision of freebsd.org
Message-ID:  <fe9c7c9b-cbb0-4880-b3a8-ded41d2141cd@bsdio.com>
In-Reply-To: <b51b29bb-3534-4e52-9b13-5cb125b7e0fc@app.fastmail.com>

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I like it!

One area that might need some focus is making sure it's accessible for 
blind or low-vision users.


-- 

Rebecca


On 5/14/25 08:46, Mark McBride wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I've been working on mock up of what a revised project front page 
> might look like with feedback from folks on IRC and Discord and I'd 
> like to see if there is project interest in pursuing it:
>
> https://freebsd.markmcb.com/
>
> This has iterated through several concepts over the past 10 days or 
> so. This version seems to illicit a broadly positive response. Areas 
> considered key improvements:
>
> + usability
>    it is responsive (i.e., works well on mobile or desktop)
>    UI more consistent with what a user would expect in 2025
>    addresses the long-standing text overlap issue
>    light/dark mode (toggle in footer, high contrast not implemented)
>
> + new user engagement
>    ability to distinguish from linux and alternative OSes
>    less clicks to find a download
>    dates associated with releases (feels more alive)
>    exposes -stable and -current
>
> + existing user engagement
>    links to beta ISOs and pre-release mail announcements
>
> + style
>    removes low resolution header
>    shrinks low res beastie so it looks higher res (if there's a high 
> res, I can't find it)
>    uses official fonts/logos for brand consistency
> What this isn't: finished. It is a mock up. So expect:
> - style hasn't been applied to all sub-pages
> - exactly which links go in header/footer needs consideration
> - how search should work is worth discussion
> - exactly what goes in "why" could be debated
> - languages not accounted for yet
>
> Feedback I'm seeking is:
> 1. Is there any desire to enhance the main page and site in general?
> 2. If we were to pursue a refresh, are we willing to go beyond style 
> and layout? For example, I think there are a few areas that are 
> fragmented (about/intro/features/newbies) an consolidation would 
> enhance their effect. Many other things like this to consider that are 
> too many to list here.
>
> Tech notes:
> - this is using the existing Hugo back end. The URL provided links to 
> the generated static files.
> - no scripting was added. All changes are HTML+CSS.
> - header/footer borrowed and modified from docs.freebsd.org
>
> Regards,
> Mark
>
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    <p>I like it!</p>
    <p>One area that might need some focus is making sure it's
      accessible for blind or low-vision users.<br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>-- <br>
    </p>
    <p>Rebecca<br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/14/25 08:46, Mark McBride wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:b51b29bb-3534-4e52-9b13-5cb125b7e0fc@app.fastmail.com">
      <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
      <title></title>
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style="z-index:0 !important;overflow-x:visible !important;overflow-y:visible !important;height:auto !important;width:auto !important;min-height:0px !important;min-width:0px !important;">
        <div>Hello,</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>I've been working on mock up of what a revised project
          front page might look like with feedback from folks on IRC and
          Discord and I'd like to see if there is project interest in
          pursuing it:</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div><a href="https://freebsd.markmcb.com/"
            rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://freebsd.markmcb.com/</a></div>;
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>This has iterated through several concepts over the past 10
          days or so. This version seems to illicit a broadly positive
          response. Areas considered key improvements:</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>+ usability</div>
        <div>   it is responsive (i.e., works well on mobile or desktop)</div>
        <div>   UI more consistent with what a user would expect in 2025</div>
        <div>   addresses the long-standing text overlap issue</div>
        <div>   light/dark mode (toggle in footer, high contrast not
          implemented)</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>+ new user engagement</div>
        <div>   ability to distinguish from linux and alternative OSes</div>
        <div>   less clicks to find a download</div>
        <div>   dates associated with releases (feels more alive)</div>
        <div>   exposes -stable and -current</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>+ existing user engagement</div>
        <div>   links to beta ISOs and pre-release mail announcements </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>+ style</div>
        <div>   removes low resolution header</div>
        <div>   shrinks low res beastie so it looks higher res (if
          there's a high res, I can't find it)</div>
        <div>   uses official fonts/logos for brand consistency </div>
        <div>   </div>
        <div>What this isn't: finished. It is a mock up. So expect:</div>
        <div>- style hasn't been applied to all sub-pages </div>
        <div>- exactly which links go in header/footer needs
          consideration</div>
        <div>- how search should work is worth discussion</div>
        <div>- exactly what goes in "why" could be debated</div>
        <div>- languages not accounted for yet</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Feedback I'm seeking is:</div>
        <div>1. Is there any desire to enhance the main page and site in
          general?</div>
        <div>2. If we were to pursue a refresh, are we willing to go
          beyond style and layout? For example, I think there are a few
          areas that are fragmented (about/intro/features/newbies) an
          consolidation would enhance their effect. Many other things
          like this to consider that are too many to list here.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Tech notes:</div>
        <div>- this is using the existing Hugo back end. The URL
          provided links to the generated static files.</div>
        <div>- no scripting was added. All changes are HTML+CSS. </div>
        <div>- header/footer borrowed and modified from docs.freebsd.org</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Regards,</div>
        <div>Mark</div>
      </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
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