Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 00:21:20 +0000 (UTC) From: Jason Spiro <jasonspiro4@gmail.com> To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggestion: rename "killall" to "fkill", but wait five years to phase the new name in Message-ID: <loom.20091223T011229-464@post.gmane.org> References: <c241693f0912212231g5c380246kf12f7bde974bb734@mail.gmail.com> <alpine.BSF.2.00.0912221409400.21806@qvfongpu.5c.ybpny> <loom.20091222T230421-82@post.gmane.org> <a78074950912221434i36be337co7ee1f9ad6bb5c921@mail.gmail.com> <c241693f0912221454o1a6bd54v7e1d7afb2694a9e2@mail.gmail.com> <4B315A5A.6040101@delphij.net>
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Xin LI <delphij <at> delphij.net> writes: > killall can be used by scripts which just works in the past, and will > never notice the warnings. On what scripts will nobody notice the warnings? For example, AFAIK, cron job output is always mailed to root. The only scripts I can think of are scripts called by web applications like PHP, and I can't think of any concrete case where they would run killall. > Also, killall is not "that" dangerous on > FreeBSD, we should ONLY give warnings when it's really necessary, > otherwise users would just ignore all warnings we gave to them. > > On the other hand, it seems to us that warning messages won't work, no > matter how long we give it, it is being ignored by a majority of users. Good points. > Then users are already familiar with FreeBSD would have to learn what > "fkill" is, and after all, having them to pay for mistakes made by > commercial Unix vendors does not seem to be a fair option. As I wrote elsewhere[1] in this thread, it seems to me the commercial vendors made no mistakes here; only Linux and FreeBSD made mistakes. > Well, I'd say it's too late for us to change since it's several years > after we have 'killall' our way. I replied to this in the last paragraph of text in [1]. > pkill have '-I', at least on FreeBSD... There is no such option in pkill on Linux.[2] ^ [1]. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.os.freebsd.devel.hackers/38308/focus=38332 ^ [2]. http://linux.die.net/man/1/pkill
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