Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:51:39 +0100 From: sam <samira.nox@gmail.com> To: d@delphij.net, "Aryeh M. Friedman" <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Justin Hibbits <jrh29@alumni.cwru.edu> Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Wiki for discussing P35/IHC9(R)/SATA issues set up Message-ID: <op.t1b08cc6ufp0mi@localhost> In-Reply-To: <472F5D9A.9050900@delphij.net> References: <472D56A1.7070206@gmail.com> <200711041119.45971.jrh29@alumni.cwru.edu> <472DD231.9030501@gmail.com> <472E67CC.9040201@delphij.net> <472E4FF0.3080801@gmail.com> <472EB211.7050001@delphij.net> <472EEADF.1000008@gmail.com> <472F466E.8050405@delphij.net> <472F5846.1020304@gmail.com> <472F5D9A.9050900@delphij.net>
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Please let me know which files you need.
sam
On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:14:50 +0100, Xin LI <delphij@delphij.net> wrote:
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> Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
>> LI Xin wrote:
> [...]
>>>>>
>>>> The default behaviour should be fixed if it is so easy then.
>>>>
>>> How come the number is so important for you? What do you think if y=
ou
>>> have to drop into single user mode and adjust fstab manually and the=
=
>>> box
>>> is several thousands of miles away from you after a simple 'make
>>> kernel'? I think changing this behavior is a big POLA and not the =
>>> right
>>> thing to do.
>>
>> It prevents certain automated config issues that may or may not be
>> issues as stuff moves more mass market... I know FreeBSD unlike Linux=
>> has no aim to be a non-techinical enduser OS but I find my self
>> increasingly recommended it as the prefered UNIX desktop enviroment
>> because so stability and the general ease of using the ports/pkg syst=
em
>> compared to RPM's... sad to say many of the end-user oriented tools
>> occasionally make naive but critical assumptions about how a machine =
is
>> layed out.
>
> Which tool? This is apparently a bug of the tool, because the tool
> won't work on Solaris either.
>
>>>>> - Wrong SATA type/speed reported
>>>>> More information is needed if you really want to have this problem=
>>>>> resolved, like atacontrol output, etc.
>>>>>
>>>> See the SATA ihc9 and previous threads if you really need to know a=
ll
>>>> the messy details but the bottom line is I have been told by severa=
l =
>>>> of
>>>> the ATA developers that since they do not have IHC9 machines P35/IH=
C9
>>>> owners where on their own (and thus the need for informal group the=
=
>>>> wiki
>>>> is aimed at)
>>>>
>>> Please provide links on the wiki if you really want it to be useful.=
>>>
>> I am at the end of a long day so I will dig the links up and post the=
m
>> tommorow (and send you copies)
>>
>>> I think the only ich9 issue I am aware of so far is that a specific
>>> model of it is not recognized. This is fixed in HEAD and RELENG_7.
>>
>> If you don't have an ICH machine I invite you to get one and verify t=
he
>> issues ;-)
>
> Mine has no problem, and I can not afford to buy a new piece of hardwa=
re
> right now.
>
>>>> 2. The answer to the type/speed type issue from the commuhity is th=
e
>>>> same one I got here
>>>>
>>> Is the problem still exist for latest RELENG_7 and RELENG_6? Who ca=
n
>>> provide some basic testing for a new snapshot?
>>>
>>
>> I csup my version of -CURRENT every day (do a buildkernel anytime the=
re
>> are more then 10 commulative changes):
>>
>> FreeBSD monster 8.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #1: Sat Nov 3 21:33:=
49
>> EDT 2007 aryeh@monster:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MONSTER amd64
>>
>> and do a build world about once a week plus a ground up rebuild of al=
l
>> ports twice a month... in other words I am as current as anyone and t=
he
>> issues still persist.
>
> PCI ID and dmesg?
>
>>> No, it does not help if that's just "it panics", "foo is not support=
ed"
>>> if no detailed information is provided and we don't have our hands o=
n
>>> the actual hardware.
>>
>> I have submitted the complete verbose dmesg, pciutil -l and everythin=
g
>> to several people and all of them have come to the conclusion that th=
ere
>> is no obvious smoking gone beyond ("it just doesn't work")... Thus t=
he
>> comment of ICH9 owners are on their own... Next time I reboot I will
>> send you a copy if you really want it.
>
> Yes, please. These information is very important for knowing how to
> change the situation, thanks.
>
> Cheers,
> - --
> Xin LI <delphij@delphij.net> http://www.delphij.net/
> FreeBSD - The Power to Serve!
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