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Date:      Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:07:16 -0600
From:      "Jeremy Messenger" <mezz7@cox.net>
To:        "Dmitry Marakasov" <amdmi3@amdmi3.ru>
Cc:        FreeBSD Ports Mailing List <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: [PROPOSAL] Ports using SCM repositories as source instead of distfiles
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On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 02:23:25 -0600, Dmitry Marakasov <amdmi3@amdmi3.ru>  
wrote:

> * Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल (wahjava.ml@gmail.com) wrote:
>
>> This is what Debian and Gentoo does. Remember we don't have to pass
>> DESTDIR variable to 'make -C /usr/ports/editors/emacs-cvs' instead it
>> will be passed to the 'gmake' process invoked by port's Makefile. If we
>
> I understand. But you're implying that there is Makefile and it supports
> DESTDIR. As I understand, you're referring to autotools-based ports.
> Remember, those are less than 1/4 of the collection.
>
>> pass DESTDIR to port's commandline, then it will install all
>> dependencies in that chroot which is not desired, we simply care about
>> the files installed by that port. Since there're already 20,000 ports we
>> can't do it by default, so we've to hack some knob (like
>> REQUIRES_DYNAMIC_INSTALLATION) which if defined will enable this
>> behaviour.
>
> So if I understand correctly, you're proposing to only use dynamic
> plist generation for the ports that support it without modification,
> i.e. autotools-based?
>
> My opinion is that we should support the feature for all ports, or don't
> support it at all. Only getting rid of ~5k pkg-plists is not a huge
> accomplishment considering the mess it causes and I doubt it's worth
> the work on adding the feature to port.mk and then rebuilding and
> testing all affected ports. Being able to forget about pkg-plists
> once and forever however would be a huge accomplishment and if that's
> possible it should be done sooner or later.

I object on get rid of pkg-plist. I depend on pkg-plist too much. I think  
it's important for us to keep on track where the files/directories are.

Cheers,
Mezz


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