Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 17:31:56 -0800 From: "Peter Kieser" <pfak@telus.net> To: "Mike Hoskins" <mike@adept.org> Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Today Message-ID: <001401c3d587$3471cb80$c701a8c0@diamond> References: <C8FC1BDF-4153-11D8-9D76-003065995254@tasonline.com><000b01c3d57f$a5c4d910$c701a8c0@diamond> <3FFCB0F2.6040206@adept.org>
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Hoskins" <mike@adept.org> To: <freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 5:22 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD Today > > for situations where the current installer doesn't quite fit the bill... > "BSD from scratch" is one alternate answer. of course that's probably > considered "ultra geek" and not for every day newbie use. it does give > strict control over the install though. working to wrap some > "run-anywhere", "user-friendly" interface around this sort of "power > tool" (more like a power process, since it currently involves disparate > scripts/makefiles) would probably make some people happy. > > http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200302/fbsdscratch.html > I agree. If it doesn't fit the bill, role your own. I can install FreeBSD in my sleep, and I'd be really ticked off if they changed the installation much. I like it for it's simplicity, it reminds me of installing a Novell NetWare 3.12, or a 4.11 server =) > > Modular development tools are also a no-no, you can't compile FreeBSD 4.x > > with 3.3 gcc.. (afaik), that would be asking for big trouble. > > it may be nice to allow such things to be more easily removed for > "security" reasons, but one certainly does have to avoid shooting > themselves in the foot. in places where this is actually desired, it > would probably be better to run a custom distro (which could really just > be freebsd minus some agreed upon things to remove, backed by policy, > enforced by script) or look at embedded/hardening projects which already > do this or make it relatively moot. > That's what OVERRIDE_BASE (sp?) is for in ports. --Peter
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