Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 23:29:26 -0500 From: Mike Jeays <jeays@statcan.ca> To: Don Wilde <dwilde1@thuntek.net> Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is there a reseller program? Message-ID: <36BD16A6.57764D98@statcan.ca> References: <XFMail.990205154324.nicole@nmhtech.com> <36BC4F39.A4E4A80A@thuntek.net>
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Since the subject came up recently, I would like to announce that I have a short TK script that makes it easy to do text scans on the list of packages on the CD-ROM, to install and deinstall them quickly, and to show which ones have already been installed. It is rather crude as it is one of my first attempts at writing anything in TK, but if the idea is useful I would be willing to improve it. It is at www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ad161 - comments welcome. BSD license, should anyone care! -- Mike Jeays : System Development Division, Statistics Canada 14-O R.H. Coats Building, Holland Avenue, Ottawa, Ontario, K1A 0T6 Voice (613)-951-9929 FAX 951-0607 Don Wilde wrote: > > Nicole Harrington wrote: > > > > On 05-Feb-99 My Secret Spies Reported That Gregory Sutter wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 07:05:46PM -0500, Hudson, Laura wrote: > > >> > > >> Of course, before we attack the NT market, we also need to make FreeBSD > > >> easier for the average newbie. How many times recently have you heard "I > > >> just installed FreeBSD, why doesn't my sound card work, d00d?!???!?!" > > > > > > Speaking of this, I just installed Free BDS, and now my MicroWare > > > UltraPixel 243 card doesn't work. It was fine under Microsoft. What > > > did you do to break my computer? > > > > > > > *LOL* > > > > I invite everyone here to join Josef Grosch and myself on a few installa-thons > > for some similiar experiences. I would love to have a few programmers there to > > experience the true needs of the "comman people" who want to get rid of MS but > > don't want another hobby. > > > I am struggling with this, too. For myself, although I'm capable of > learning it, there are times when I just want the @#$%!! sound card to > work without my having to sort out 47 different kernel options. I'd > settle for a little script that would make Apache stop complaining at > boot time and set itself up with the domain and IP that I entered on > install. > > > I have to explain that FreeBSD is great, but there *IS* a learning curve. > > But lets face it, do we really want to run our servers on something for the > > desktop? If we really want that market, we need a FreeBSD-desktop version. IMHO. > > > I think we're closer than we think. A front end to pkg_info that sorts > and searches, some scripts (as above) to take care of the easy gotchas, > and more documentation aids (like Forrest Cavalier's Reuse RKT, Linux > HOW-TO's, etc.). FreeBSD has a default configuration that it comes up > in, let's just refine that a little by helping it over the rough spots. > Adding a default X configuration -- which doesn't get installed unless > the user requests it -- doesn't take away from FreeBSD's capability as a > server. Server users always need to customize it anyway, as soon as > there's any networking involved beyond a PPP connection. As long as we > never let the GUI admin tools stray from the UN*X mantra of text files, > you'll never lose your command-line capability. > > > BTW: on a side note. > > At the last installa-thon the Linux group was advertised, but not there. After > > a dozen of so people asked my girlfriend where the Linux people were, she told > > one person that "their server crashed so they could'nt make it, would you like > > to try FreeBSD instead?" Looking like a cat stunned in oncomming headlights > > they turned around and left. > > > I'd suggest you print out some copies of the Linux World article from > December about how FreeBSD is better at being Linux than Linux. And, > BTW, thanks for the extra effort [install-a-thons]. Glad you stopped > lurking and joined us again. :-) > > -- > oooOOO O O O o * * * * * * > o ___ _________ _________ _________ ___==__ > V_=_=_DW ===--- Don Wilde dwilde1@thuntek.net [ = = ] > /oo0000oo-oo--oo-ooo---ooo-ooo---ooo-ooo---ooo-oo---oo > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message -- Mike Jeays : System Development Division, Statistics Canada 14-O R.H. Coats Building, Holland Avenue, Ottawa, Ontario, K1A 0T6 Voice (613)-951-9929 FAX 951-0607 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message
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