Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 00:26:14 +0300 From: Palle Girgensohn <girgen@pingpong.net> To: Kimmo Paasiala <kpaasial@gmail.com> Cc: =?utf-8?Q?Michael_Gr=C3=BCnewald?= <michipili@gmail.com>, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Ports <ports@freebsd.org>, "pgsql@freebsd.org" <pgsql@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Proposal to fix postgresql package maintainance nightmare Message-ID: <4E33531E-0290-4E49-8A23-C7960603A262@pingpong.net> In-Reply-To: <CA%2B7WWSf%2BmYJL=Fe5cX6jnG93EgK4eaQJ4KLN1HE0-uOnsAZq5A@mail.gmail.com> References: <20150721094627.GD21594@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <3C35EF0A-38EF-452A-AC9D-21805F4A45DB@gmail.com> <CA%2B7WWSf%2BmYJL=Fe5cX6jnG93EgK4eaQJ4KLN1HE0-uOnsAZq5A@mail.gmail.com>
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> 4 aug 2015 kl. 14:33 skrev Kimmo Paasiala <kpaasial@gmail.com>: >=20 >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 1:07 PM, Michael Gr=C3=BCnewald <michipili@gmail.c= om> wrote: >>=20 >>> On 21 Jul 2015, at 11:46, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org> wrote: >>> - Impossible to have tools from both old and new version at the same tim= e (which >>> is necessary to upgrade db and prepare upgrades of db) =E2=80=A6 >>=20 >> Could not jails be used to solve these issues by running the two (=E2=80=A6= ) required versions >> in jailed environments? There is a little bit of setup, but if by any ch= ance you >> are using some variation of the immutable server pattern, it should stay v= ery low. >=20 > You can't ask an average FreeBSD user who just wants to upgrade > his/her PostgreSQL installation to set up jails that would be only > used for one task. The upgrade should be achievable with just 'pkg > upgrade' without any extra work. >=20 > -Kimmo True. Also, pg_upgrade cannot operate using different jails. But for some ppl, jails if definitely a solution. The problem we're trying t= o solve is not that, though, it is when not using jails. Supporting pg_upgra= de is one of my main concerns, and also the ability to run several postgresq= l versions simultaneously for whatever reason.=20 Palle
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