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Date:      Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:30:19 +1030
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        dyson@iquest.net
Cc:        wes@softweyr.com, tlambert@primenet.com, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Linux to be deployed in Mexican schools; Where was FreeBSD?
Message-ID:  <19981129183019.H456@freebie.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <199811290733.CAA35884@y.dyson.net>; from John S. Dyson on Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 02:33:53AM -0500
References:  <19981129175648.F456@freebie.lemis.com> <199811290733.CAA35884@y.dyson.net>

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On Sunday, 29 November 1998 at  2:33:53 -0500, John S. Dyson wrote:
> Greg Lehey said:
>>
>> OK, I must be missing something, but what does System V init have that
>> makes it easier to start up or shut down an application?  /etc/rc*.d
>> isn't the problem: that's a question of scripts, not init.
>>
> Init supports runmodes (good or bad -- I don't care -- if one doesn't like
> it, then don't use them.)  

OK.  The *idea* of run modes seems to make sense, and I wouldn't
change the System V method on a system which had it, but how useful is
it really?  Consider:

Run state	Meaning		BSD init
0		halt		halt
1		single user	shutdown
2		multi user,	Whaat??
		no network
3		multiuser	(multiuser; stop single user)
4		undefined
		(most systems)	can't see any equivalent on PCs
5		PROM monitor	
6		reboot		reboot

Where's the important difference?

> SysV init has an established set of standards for usage of
> startup/shutdown files.  It doesn't solve ALL problems, but moves
> forward, other than just staying idle.

Sure, but as I said, that's all a question of scripts.

Greg
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