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Date:      Sun, 17 Dec 2000 13:31:02 +0500
From:      "Haikal Saadh" <wyldephyre2@yahoo.com>
To:        "Doug Young" <dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au>, "Michel Van Simaeys" <michel.van.simaeys@skynet.be>, <freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Trying to install FreeBsd for the very first time.
Message-ID:  <000101c06809$9c56c320$97c101ca@oemcomputer>
References:  <000c01c0679d$4d119c20$fae0043e@sky40294> <003a01c067a9$411b0e40$847e03cb@apana.org.au>

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Damn right!!!
My dad's laptop's (toshiba satellite 2100CDT) sooooo geared for windows, you can't even change the display's brigtness unless it's in windows...all the fn+Fx keys pop up little windows dialogs that you click on instead of cycling thru all the options like they used to (on previous laptops i've seen/used).

But as for the problem at hand:
/boot.config: -P
Keyboard: no
                ^^
        I'd hazard a a guess and say your keyboards not being detected...if you've got an extra keyboard lying around, try plugging that in.
  From: Doug Young 
  To: Michel Van Simaeys ; freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG 
  Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 2:43 AM
  Subject: Re: Trying to install FreeBsd for the very first time.


  I don't know that beast at all .... probably none of them roamed as far from home as Australia :) However I have attempted to install various renditions of FreeBSD on some of the more exotic hardware & invariably discovered (presumably) new / hitherto undiscovered "features". 
   
  If by"portable" you mean some flavor of laptop then I'm not at all surprised you are getting weird results .... seems most laptop manufacturers search out the most unusual bits that are guaranteed to give problems with any O/S bar Win9x !!!
   
  Probably the best place to start here (assuming you have the patience of Job) is to provide the list with a complete summary of what is in the machine .... VGA adaptor / audio adaptor / IDE controller / motherboard chipset / RAM / CPU manufacturer / NIC (if installed) / modem as someone may have had experience with some or all those bits.

  My suggestion for what its worth is to exchange the thing for a regular "common or garden variety" box ... preferably one of the generic "built in someone's backyard" style rather than a Compaq / Digital / IBM / Fujitsu  type one as those are often inclined to be Win9x devotees. 
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Michel Van Simaeys 
    To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG 
    Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 6:18 AM
    Subject: Trying to install FreeBsd for the very first time.


    Dear,


    Finally I have a portable to instaal FreeBsd 3.3 on. After making the installation disks, I try to boot from diskette. This is what appears. After about one minute the system stops with the following statements.
    /boot.config: -P
    Keyboard: no
    -
    BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is 1.01

    I have to reset the machine to be able to continue. I saw in the documentation an advise on using the 'userconfig' tool; Where on the net can I find this tool?  
    What is going on??
     I have a Echos P133 Portable from Olivetti with DOS 6.3 installed.


    See you,

    Michel Van Simaeys

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Damn right!!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My dad's laptop's (toshiba satellite 2100CDT) 
sooooo geared for windows, you can't even change the display's brigtness unless 
it's in windows...all the fn+Fx keys pop up little windows dialogs that you 
click on instead of cycling thru all the options like they used to (on previous 
laptops i've seen/used).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>But as for the problem at hand:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>/boot.config: -P</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Keyboard: no</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
^^</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I'd hazard a a guess and say your 
keyboards not being detected...if you've got an extra keyboard lying around, try 
plugging that in.</DIV></FONT></DIV>
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style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A href="mailto:dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au" 
  title=dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au>Doug Young</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
  href="mailto:michel.van.simaeys@skynet.be" 
  title=michel.van.simaeys@skynet.be>Michel Van Simaeys</A> ; <A 
  href="mailto:freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG" 
  title=freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG>freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 17, 2000 2:43 
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Trying to install FreeBsd 
  for the very first time.</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I don't know that beast at all .... probably none 
  of them roamed as far from home as Australia :) However I have attempted to 
  install various renditions of FreeBSD on some of the more exotic hardware 
  &amp; invariably discovered (presumably) new / hitherto undiscovered 
  "features". </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If by"portable" you mean some flavor of laptop 
  then I'm not at all surprised you are getting weird results .... seems most 
  laptop manufacturers search out the most unusual bits that are guaranteed to 
  give problems with any O/S bar Win9x !!!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Probably the best place to start here (assuming 
  you have the patience of Job) is to provide the list with a complete summary 
  of what is in the machine .... VGA adaptor / audio adaptor / IDE controller / 
  motherboard chipset / RAM /&nbsp;CPU manufacturer / NIC (if installed) / modem 
  as someone may&nbsp;have had experience with some or all those 
  bits.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My suggestion for what its worth is to exchange 
  the thing for a regular "common or garden variety" box ... preferably one of 
  the generic "built in someone's backyard" style rather than a Compaq / Digital 
  / IBM / Fujitsu </FONT>&nbsp;<FONT face=Arial size=2>type one as those are 
  often&nbsp;inclined to be Win9x devotees.&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV 
    style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
    <A href="mailto:michel.van.simaeys@skynet.be" 
    title=michel.van.simaeys@skynet.be>Michel Van Simaeys</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
    href="mailto:freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG" 
    title=freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG>freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 17, 2000 6:18 
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Trying to install FreeBsd for 
    the very first time.</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dear,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Finally I have a portable to instaal FreeBsd 
    3.3 on. After making the installation disks, I try to boot from diskette. 
    This is what appears. After about one minute the system stops with the 
    following statements.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>/boot.config: -P</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Keyboard: no</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>-</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is 
1.01</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have to reset the machine to be able to 
    continue. I saw in the documentation an advise on using&nbsp;the 
    'userconfig' tool; Where on the net can I find this 
    tool?&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>What is going on??</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;I have a Echos P133 Portable from 
    Olivetti with DOS 6.3 installed.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>See you,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Michel Van 
Simaeys</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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