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Date:      Sun, 17 Dec 2000 13:31:02 +0500
From:      "Haikal Saadh" <wyldephyre2@yahoo.com>
To:        "Doug Young" <dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au>, "Michel Van Simaeys" <michel.van.simaeys@skynet.be>, <freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Trying to install FreeBsd for the very first time.
Message-ID:  <000101c06809$9c56c320$97c101ca@oemcomputer>
References:  <000c01c0679d$4d119c20$fae0043e@sky40294> <003a01c067a9$411b0e40$847e03cb@apana.org.au>

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Damn right!!!
My dad's laptop's (toshiba satellite 2100CDT) sooooo geared for windows, =
you can't even change the display's brigtness unless it's in =
windows...all the fn+Fx keys pop up little windows dialogs that you =
click on instead of cycling thru all the options like they used to (on =
previous laptops i've seen/used).

But as for the problem at hand:
/boot.config: -P
Keyboard: no
                ^^
        I'd hazard a a guess and say your keyboards not being =
detected...if you've got an extra keyboard lying around, try plugging =
that in.
  From: Doug Young=20
  To: Michel Van Simaeys ; freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG=20
  Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 2:43 AM
  Subject: Re: Trying to install FreeBsd for the very first time.


  I don't know that beast at all .... probably none of them roamed as =
far from home as Australia :) However I have attempted to install =
various renditions of FreeBSD on some of the more exotic hardware & =
invariably discovered (presumably) new / hitherto undiscovered =
"features".=20
  =20
  If by"portable" you mean some flavor of laptop then I'm not at all =
surprised you are getting weird results .... seems most laptop =
manufacturers search out the most unusual bits that are guaranteed to =
give problems with any O/S bar Win9x !!!
  =20
  Probably the best place to start here (assuming you have the patience =
of Job) is to provide the list with a complete summary of what is in the =
machine .... VGA adaptor / audio adaptor / IDE controller / motherboard =
chipset / RAM / CPU manufacturer / NIC (if installed) / modem as someone =
may have had experience with some or all those bits.

  My suggestion for what its worth is to exchange the thing for a =
regular "common or garden variety" box ... preferably one of the generic =
"built in someone's backyard" style rather than a Compaq / Digital / IBM =
/ Fujitsu  type one as those are often inclined to be Win9x devotees.=20
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Michel Van Simaeys=20
    To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG=20
    Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 6:18 AM
    Subject: Trying to install FreeBsd for the very first time.


    Dear,


    Finally I have a portable to instaal FreeBsd 3.3 on. After making =
the installation disks, I try to boot from diskette. This is what =
appears. After about one minute the system stops with the following =
statements.
    /boot.config: -P
    Keyboard: no
    -
    BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is 1.01

    I have to reset the machine to be able to continue. I saw in the =
documentation an advise on using the 'userconfig' tool; Where on the net =
can I find this tool? =20
    What is going on??
     I have a Echos P133 Portable from Olivetti with DOS 6.3 installed.


    See you,

    Michel Van Simaeys

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Damn right!!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My dad's laptop's (toshiba satellite =
2100CDT)=20
sooooo geared for windows, you can't even change the display's brigtness =
unless=20
it's in windows...all the fn+Fx keys pop up little windows dialogs that =
you=20
click on instead of cycling thru all the options like they used to (on =
previous=20
laptops i've seen/used).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>But as for the problem at =
hand:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>/boot.config: -P</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Keyboard: no</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
^^</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I'd hazard a a guess and say =
your=20
keyboards not being detected...if you've got an extra keyboard lying =
around, try=20
plugging that in.</DIV></FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
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  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A href=3D"mailto:dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au"=20
  title=3Ddougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au>Doug Young</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:michel.van.simaeys@skynet.be"=20
  title=3Dmichel.van.simaeys@skynet.be>Michel Van Simaeys</A> ; <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG"=20
  title=3Dfreebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG>freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG</A> =
</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 17, 2000 =
2:43=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Trying to install =
FreeBsd=20
  for the very first time.</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I don't know that beast at all .... =
probably none=20
  of them roamed as far from home as Australia :) However I have =
attempted to=20
  install various renditions of FreeBSD on some of the more exotic =
hardware=20
  &amp; invariably discovered (presumably) new / hitherto undiscovered=20
  "features". </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If by"portable" you mean some flavor =
of laptop=20
  then I'm not at all surprised you are getting weird results .... seems =
most=20
  laptop manufacturers search out the most unusual bits that are =
guaranteed to=20
  give problems with any O/S bar Win9x !!!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Probably the best place to start here =
(assuming=20
  you have the patience of Job) is to provide the list with a complete =
summary=20
  of what is in the machine .... VGA adaptor / audio adaptor / IDE =
controller /=20
  motherboard chipset / RAM /&nbsp;CPU manufacturer / NIC (if installed) =
/ modem=20
  as someone may&nbsp;have had experience with some or all those=20
  bits.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My suggestion for what its worth is =
to exchange=20
  the thing for a regular "common or garden variety" box ... preferably =
one of=20
  the generic "built in someone's backyard" style rather than a Compaq / =
Digital=20
  / IBM / Fujitsu </FONT>&nbsp;<FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>type one as =
those are=20
  often&nbsp;inclined to be Win9x devotees.&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
  style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A href=3D"mailto:michel.van.simaeys@skynet.be"=20
    title=3Dmichel.van.simaeys@skynet.be>Michel Van Simaeys</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG"=20
    title=3Dfreebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG>freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG</A> =
</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 17, =
2000 6:18=20
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Trying to install =
FreeBsd for=20
    the very first time.</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Finally I have a portable to =
instaal FreeBsd=20
    3.3 on. After making the installation disks, I try to boot from =
diskette.=20
    This is what appears. After about one minute the system stops with =
the=20
    following statements.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>/boot.config: -P</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Keyboard: no</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>-</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is=20
1.01</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have to reset the machine to be =
able to=20
    continue. I saw in the documentation an advise on using&nbsp;the=20
    'userconfig' tool; Where on the net can I find this=20
    tool?&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What is going on??</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;I have a Echos P133 Portable =
from=20
    Olivetti with DOS 6.3 installed.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>See you,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Michel Van=20
Simaeys</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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