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Date:      Sun, 27 Jan 2002 12:26:36 -0800
From:      Jordan Hubbard <jkh@winston.freebsd.org>
To:        Murray Stokely <murray@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.org, re@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Installation failure [finally] seen with 4.5-RC3 
Message-ID:  <54948.1012163196@winston.freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: Message from Murray Stokely <murray@FreeBSD.org>  of "Sat, 26 Jan 2002 18:35:46 PST." <20020127023546.GA5153@freebsdmall.com> 

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I've been trying to reproduce it and it's been failing to oblige by
installing successfully over and over again - I say call it a
Heisenbug and just move on.  I've looked over the code and I honestly
can't see any reason why it would die there or how the src
distribution would be any different than the others.

Sorry guys, I would have really liked to do more than spread needless
Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt over this but I felt compelled to at least
say something since I'd seen other people report it.

On the plus side, I did spend some time trying lots of other things in
the installer and it seems to work just great.  All the packages I
tried installed successfully, KDE2 comes up just fine as a desktop
environment, and "Dangerously Dedicated" mode thankfully still works
from its stealth mode in the partition editor because my test box also
refuses to boot with any other partitioning policy. :-)

- Jordan


> Hey Jordan,
> 
>    Did you run some more installs on this piece of hardware?  Without
> a more concrete failure case I don't think that it makes sense to
> delay the release.  As it stands right now, we have very little to go
> on, so it's not very likely that delaying the release would help to
> track this down.
> 
>       - Murray
> 
> On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 06:54:19PM -0800, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
> > This particular machine is surrounded by Macs.  I don't have anything to pl
ug
> > its serial port into. :-)
> > 
> > - Jordan
> > 
> > P.S. I suppose I could revive my Vaio.
> > 
> > > On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Unfortunately, this one seems to be in the "heisenbug" category which
> > > > is why I didn't flag it as a show-stopper when it started getting
> > > <...> 
> > > > I also believe it's actually a kernel panic or hard hang vs sysinstall
> > > 
> > > if it's a kernel panic, wouldnt you see some indication thereof on the 
> > > serial port? or is that sort of functionality not available in an install
 
> > > kernel?
> > > 
> > > just my us$ 0.02....
> > > 
> > > johnu
> > > 
> > > > - Jordan
> > > > 
> > > > 
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> > > > 
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > 
> > > John L. Utz III
> > > john@utzweb.net
> > > 
> > > Idiocy is the Impulse Function in the Convolution of Life
> > > 


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