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Date:      Sat, 26 Sep 2020 19:38:07 -0600
From:      Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org>
To:        rgrimes@freebsd.org
Cc:        Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>, Niclas Zeising <zeising@freebsd.org>, src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>, svn-src-all <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>, svn-src-head <svn-src-head@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r366186 - in head/usr.sbin: bsdconfig/share/media bsdinstall/scripts
Message-ID:  <58A46C41-07DE-41F4-A3F9-668035347D8B@samsco.org>
In-Reply-To: <202009262324.08QNOjbQ056906@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>
References:  <202009262324.08QNOjbQ056906@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>

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> On Sep 26, 2020, at 5:24 PM, Rodney W. Grimes <freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> w=
rote:
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>>>> On Sep 26, 2020, at 1:22 PM, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
>>>=20
>>>=20
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>>> I am the wrong person to answer that question.
>>>=20
>>> In this case, things have not become lame.  For instance, the names=20
>>> ervers for se.freebsd.org work fine, but ftp3.se and ftp6.se records are=
=20
>>> removed.  Same for ru.freebsd.org and ftp4.ru.
>>> I'm merely pointing out that changing ftp.CC.freebsd.org usually=20
>>> requires contacting the person(s) maintaining the CC.freebsd.org zone,=20=

>>> which is usually not the project.
>>>=20
>>> It's usually people associated with the project in some way, but who mig=
ht not be as responsive as cluster admin. These domains have been delegated,=
 so we have to get the delegated admin to make the changes, which can take a=
 bit of time to chase down and doesn't lend itself to easy / automated copin=
g with this situation.
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>> Just a spitball idea here, but maybe we should consider not embedding the=
se lists of mirror URLs into the binaries.  It seems pretty straight-forward=
 that the list evolves over time, and that evolution is not tightly coupled w=
ith the updating of the binaries.  It sounds like the pkg and freebsd-update=
 infrastructure use DNS TXT and/or SRV records to point to the metadata need=
ed to construct a mirror URL list dynamically.  Maybe something similar can b=
e done for bsdconfig?  If it?s not a crazy idea, is there anyone who would b=
e interested in helping me write a proposal over at arch@?
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> 100% behind that idea!  Especially since it seems the project has lost
> (some) control over its DNS space, which IMHO, is still an issue, if
> the people whom DNS zones have been deligated to are not responsive
> that should also=20

Words of agreement don=E2=80=99t help at the moment, though i appreciate you=
r enthusiasm.  Would you he able to help write a proposal for the arch@ mail=
ing list?

Thanks,
Scott=




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