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Date:      Tue, 4 Jun 2024 17:24:35 -0700
From:      Rick Macklem <rick.macklem@gmail.com>
To:        Alan Somers <asomers@freebsd.org>
Cc:        John Hixson <jhixson@freebsd.org>, Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz>,  Rick Macklem <rmacklem@uoguelph.ca>, David Chisnall <theraven@freebsd.org>,  "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Deprecating smbfs(5) and removing it before FreeBSD 14
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On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 5:18=E2=80=AFPM Alan Somers <asomers@freebsd.org> wr=
ote:
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> On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 3:52=E2=80=AFPM John Hixson <jhixson@freebsd.org> =
wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 03:27:54PM +0200, Miroslav Lachman wrote:
> > > On 16/06/2022 15:56, Rick Macklem wrote:
> > > > Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> wrote:
> > > > > On 24/01/2022 16:13, Rick Macklem wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > [...]
> > > > >
> > > > > > So, I think Mark and Yuri are correct and looking at up to date
> > > > > > Illumos sources is the next step.
> > > > > > (As I mentioned, porting the Apple sources is beyond what I am
> > > > > >    willing to attempt.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > rick
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello Rick,
> > > > > I would like to ask you I there is some progress with porting new=
er
> > > > > SMBFS / CIFS version to FreeBSD? Did you find Illumos sources as =
a
> > > > > possibility where to start porting?
> > > > Yes. I have the stuff off Illumos-gate, which I think is pretty up-=
to-date
> > > > and I agree that it should be easier than the Apple stuff to port i=
nto
> > > > FreeBSD.  I don't think it is "straightforward" as someone involved
> > > > with Illumos said, due to the big differences in VFS/locking, but..=
.
> > > >
> > > > Having said the above, I have not done much yet. I've been cleaning=
 up
> > > > NFS stuff, although I am nearly done with that now.
> > > > I do plan on starting to work on it soon, but have no idea if/when =
I
> > > > will have something that might be useful for others.
> > >
> > > I'm glad to hear that.
> > >
> > > > > We have more and more problems with current state of mount_smbfs.=
 I
> > > > > would be really glad if "somebody" can do the heroic work of
> > > > > implementing SMBv2 in FreeBSD.
> > > > > Maybe it's time to start some fundraising for sponsoring this wor=
k?
> > > > Well, funding isn't an issue for me (I'm just a retired guy who doe=
s this
> > > > stuff as a hobby). However, if there is someone else who is capable=
 of
> > > > doing it if they are funded, I have no problem with that.
> > > > I could either help them, or simply stick with working on NFS and l=
eave
> > > > SMBv23 to them.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, but I cannot report real progress on this as yet, rick
> > >
> > > No need to sorry. I really appreciate your endless work on NFS and th=
at you
> > > still have kind of interest to try porting SMBv2/3.
> > > Unfortunately I don't know anybody else trying to do this tremendous =
work.
> > >
> >
> > I am working on a from scratch implementation of smbfs. I do not have
> > any kind of time estimate since it is in my spare time. I chose this
> > route after spending considerable time looking at Apple and Solaris
> > implementations and wanting something without all of the legacy 1.0
> > crap. I do have a very minimal working FUSE version at this point, but
> > there is much to do, and even more to abide by the various
> > specifications.
> >
> > I just thought I'd share in case anyone is interested.
Best of luck with it. I never got far into porting the Illumos code.

rick

> >
> > - John
>
> I am indeed interested.  smbfs is an important feature to have.  Let
> me know if you need help with the fuse parts.
> -Alan



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