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Date:      Sat, 27 Apr 2002 22:52:05 -0700
From:      bmah@FreeBSD.ORG (Bruce A. Mah)
To:        "Karsten W. Rohrbach" <karsten@rohrbach.de>
Cc:        "Bruce A. Mah" <bmah@FreeBSD.ORG>, Doug Barton <DougB@FreeBSD.ORG>, JJ Behrens <jj@nttmcl.com>, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Release notes (was Re: *** HEAD'S UP ***) 
Message-ID:  <200204280552.g3S5q5B0057893@intruder.bmah.org>
In-Reply-To: <20020426144403.D35038@mail.webmonster.de> 
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If memory serves me right, "Karsten W. Rohrbach" wrote:

> > He/she can either read it on the Web (as presented many times before),
> > or look in src/release/doc/README if he/she wants to build the release
> > documentation from scratch.  I'm receptive to concrete suggestions for
> > this file.
> 
> a pointer to your relnotes page should be contained in /usr/src/README.

Thank you.  It's on my list of things to do.

I was working on some more general text for the handbook along these 
lines, but it's not ready yet.

> > I'd also claim that someone doing source upgrades to a FreeBSD system=20
> > isn't a "newbie", or they *shouldn't* be.  :-)
> 
> the problem is, that people MUST fix their systems somehow. due to
> freebsd's nature of being easily upgraded from source, and the
> non-availability of RELENG isos, as stated in other threads on -stable
> and -security, using cvsup is their only choice.  _there is not a single
> other option for them_, and that's the main problem here where i see an
> improvement to make freebsd more popular, especially for folks who
> just "give it a spin" to decide if they want to use it instead of=20
> [arbitrary unix flavor goes here].

I think you're overstating the case for people needing to do source
upgrades.  I used to jump between RELEASEs for years (between 2.1.0 and
3.4) and I was quite happy with this.  It sounds like you're saying
every single FreeBSD user needs to be able to track -STABLE.

Cheers,

Bruce.

PS.  http://snapshots.jp.freebsd.org/




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