Date: Sat, 19 May 2018 21:50:42 -0600 From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> To: Eitan Adler <lists@eitanadler.com> Cc: Pedro Giffuni <pfg@freebsd.org>, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>, "Rodney W. Grimes" <rgrimes@freebsd.org>, Warner Losh <imp@freebsd.org>, src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r333880 - head/sys/kern Message-ID: <CANCZdfoJ5jjMVMd0eMt=C9B3j6t0Q47SocvQjYarF=N-h-ty0w@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CAF6rxgnaKP=O9G8q4qkfH6HD2EyPC9oGzMo6SGP6BcfyeYaU2A@mail.gmail.com> References: <201805191729.w4JHTvOo032116@repo.freebsd.org> <201805191945.w4JJjMlk017155@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> <CANCZdfrMjf8LgwUy4rL53m-XAM9P0fa-cb=cD5%2BV5Br%2Bevussw@mail.gmail.com> <6814.1526761972@critter.freebsd.dk> <CANCZdfo41DjRWBovb0soN1SnfeiQ_n3nxpqOKj_HCnuUSZ-fVA@mail.gmail.com> <637a69d0-fbc9-552b-49fd-9d029eb592f4@FreeBSD.org> <CANCZdfqGJ88mk6CkZjFjPM0j_n%2Bj9tfkR6YtWHewGunzv=%2B61w@mail.gmail.com> <fc53911a-c22e-c1c9-337c-0b7a61e24c4e@FreeBSD.org> <CANCZdfrssrsQuwS2Tem-SjmHtZQVOmrdLgzqwyXE-GXqEw5sZA@mail.gmail.com> <CAF6rxgnaKP=O9G8q4qkfH6HD2EyPC9oGzMo6SGP6BcfyeYaU2A@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 9:48 PM, Eitan Adler <lists@eitanadler.com> wrote: > On 19 May 2018 at 20:05, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 8:54 PM, Pedro Giffuni <pfg@freebsd.org> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> On 19/05/2018 21:43, Warner Losh wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> On Sat, May 19, 2018, 8:40 PM Pedro Giffuni <pfg@freebsd.org> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> On 19/05/2018 16:02, Warner Losh wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 2:32 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk > > > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> -------- > >>>> In message > >>>> <CANCZdfrMjf8LgwUy4rL53m-XAM9P0fa-cb=cD5+V5Br+evussw@mail.gmail.com> > >>>> , Warner Losh writes: > >>>> > >>>> >> > Log: > >>>> >> > Restore the all rights reserved language. > >>>> > >>>> "All Rights Reserved" is boilerplate from the old "Buenos Aires" > >>>> copyright convention, (a purely N+S American affair) and it lost > >>>> all meaning and relevance for UCB when USA ratified the Berne > >>>> Convention 60 years ago. > >>> > >>> > >>> The US ratified the Berne Convention in 1989, which falls in the middle > >>> of the 4.x BSD releases... Relevant for 4.3, but not 4.4. > >>> > >>>> > >>>> The final Buenos Aires signatory joined Berne a couple of decades > >>>> ago, rendering the convention null and void, and therefore this > >>>> boilerplate has no meaning or relevance for anybody. > >>> > >>> > >>> Right, I get that. However, someone removed it. Even though it's > useless > >>> at this point, I don't believe we can remove it. > >>> > >>> For the record, and with the usual disclaimer that I am *not* a lawyer > >>> ... > >>> > >>> I attended a talk from a lawyer from Google that explained adding the > >>> "All Rights Reserved" line didn't mean what it intended to mean > previously > >>> (or much at all) but that removing it was intended as having a > meaning. In > >>> sum, and while I didn't completely grasp the issue is not clear all > lawyers > >>> would agree on removing the line. > >>> > >>> For old code it is what is, but perhaps the effort should be done for > new > >>> code, starting here: > >>> > >>> > >>> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/ > committers-guide/pref-license.html > >> > >> > >> > >> Looks like i missed one. I'll fix it. > >> > >> While updating documentation, the SPDX guys also point to an outdated > >> version: > >> > >> https://spdx.org/licenses/BSD-2-Clause-FreeBSD.html > > > > > > Can you get this updated? > > > >> > >> https://www.freebsd.org/copyright/freebsd-license.html > > > > > > Not sure where this file comes from... > > Sending freebsd-license.xml > Transmitting file data .done > Committing transaction... > Committed revision 51670. > > >> With the additional mistake that they added the Documentation Project > >> disclaimer to the license: > >> > >> "The views and conclusions contained in the software and documentation > >> are those of the authors and should not be interpreted as representing > >> official policies, either expressed or implied, of the FreeBSD Project." > > > > > > Can you get that fixed? > > You want me to remove the disclaimer as well? > Where's that found? Warner
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