Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:38:16 +0300 From: Samy Al Bahra <samy@kerneled.com> To: "Paul Robinson" <p.robinson@mmu.ac.uk> Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Swag... new choices? Message-ID: <20031003213816.7509c057.samy@kerneled.com> In-Reply-To: <002c01c389bb$3e632340$6c01a8c0@MITERDOMAIN> References: <20030928152441.S83167-100000@users.757.org> <002c01c389bb$3e632340$6c01a8c0@MITERDOMAIN>
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On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 15:32:59 +0100 "Paul Robinson" <p.robinson@mmu.ac.uk> wrote: > Ahhh, but they have completely free use of their puffy fish mascot and > a bunch of talented guys producing original artwork, music, the whole > lot. We have more developers and fewer artists, and a mascot we don't > really own. That makes it difficult to produce a wide range of > artwork. Very true. A major problem is the fact that we have to notify McKusick for all of our use of the daemon (for project art), everything is under his terms. I was working on a song with masta (of wifiBSD) a while back, unfortunately, I had higher priorities so the project was dropped. > Perhaps a competition of some sort? I don't think we should hold a competition, I know a lot of users out there (some being talented artists) have created their own art of some sort. I urge these to step-up and help me finish off this gallery to create a more complete set of artwork (more backgrounds, more splash screens, some icons, etc...). I am sniffing around IRC networks for these artists :) Personally, those pieces of work were for complete fun, this simple image composition is great therapy for me. > I think it also might be an idea > to get some distributors further afield than FreeBSD mall - I've had > genuinly AWFUL experiences with them, and a lot of people don't want > to deal with them. Plus, in Europe, there are plenty of distributors > prepared to handle this side of the Atlantic. I could do this for the Middle East (we have warehouses littered around here that are willing to deal with this). I just don't see the potential for this region at the moment (something to change...a future goal during my time here). > > The real problem though is free use of the logo/mascot. To really open > up the market like OpenBSD has, you kind of have to consider... dare I > say it?... changing the mascot. If you want to produce lots of mass > produced stuff with loads of artwork and sell them, you can't use > beastie unless you've cleared every item with McKusick: > > http://www.mckusick.com/beastie/mainpage/copyright.html Yes. I ran into this problem with the GNOME splash screen (since it will soon be the default one for GNOME 2.4). I hold very very high respect for McKusick but I think that his terms for the use of the daemon are a bit too constraining (though, his license is vague most could walk away with derivatives of it). I think we should stick to a daemon-type logo (though, something completely different than the current thing, maybe a gecko-daemon? :P). Eithercase, this is a huge step and something all the community should agree to. -- +-----------------------------------+ | Samy Al Bahra | samy@kerneled.com | |-----------------------------------| | B3A7 F5BE B2AE 67B1 AC4B | | 0983 956D 1F4A AA54 47CB | |-----------------------------------| | http://www.kerneled.com | +-----------------------------------+
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