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Date:      Wed, 22 Sep 2021 08:34:58 -0700
From:      John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>, current@freebsd.org, arch@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: [HEADSUP] making /bin/sh the default shell for root
Message-ID:  <82d7f4d1-5ce9-c7ed-d993-b16b3ddac6e3@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <20210922083645.4vnoajyvwq6wfhdf@aniel.nours.eu>
References:  <20210922083645.4vnoajyvwq6wfhdf@aniel.nours.eu>

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On 9/22/21 1:36 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> TL;DR: this is not a proposal to deorbit csh from base!!!
> 
> For years now, csh is the default root shell for FreeBSD, csh can be confusing
> as a default shell for many as all other unix like settled on a bourne shell
> compatible interactive shell: zsh, bash, or variant of ksh.
> 
> Recently our sh(1) has receive update to make it more user friendly in
> interactive mode:
> * command completion (thanks pstef@)
> * improvement in the emacs mode, to make it behave by default like other shells
> * improvement in the vi mode (in particular the vi edit to respect $EDITOR)
> * support for history as described by POSIX.
> 
> This makes it a usable shell by default, which is why I would like to propose to
> make it the default shell for root starting FreeBSD 14.0-RELEASE (not MFCed)
> 
> If no strong arguments has been raised until October 15th, I will make this
> proposal happen.
> 
> Again just in case: THIS IS NOT A PROPOSAL TO REMOVE CSH FROM BASE!

I think this is fine.  I would also be fine with either removing 'toor' from the
default password file or just leaving it as-is for POLA.  (I would probably
prefer removing it outright.)

-- 
John Baldwin



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