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Date:      Sun, 29 Jul 2007 09:02:37 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Daniel Eischen <deischen@freebsd.org>
To:        Racaille <0xef967c36@gmail.com>
Cc:        current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: TERM={xterm-r5,xterm-r6} behaving badly with man(1)
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On Sun, 29 Jul 2007, Racaille wrote:

> On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 11:21:19AM +0200, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
>> Daniel Eischen <deischen@freebsd.org> writes:
>>> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
>>>> This is the *correct* behaviour.  The termcap entry is supposed to
>>>> reflect the capabilities of the terminal, not your personal preferences.
>>>> If you don't like it, you can override it using the TERMCAP environment
>>>> variable.
>>> Well, something did change recently to get this behavior.
>>
>> New libncurses perhaps?  The termcap file itself hasn't changed since
>> late 2005.
>>
>>>  And why do we have a termcap xterm entry that doesn't exhibit this
>>> behavior?
>>
>> Because somebody modified it to reflect his personal preference:
>>
>> xterm|xterm-color|X11 terminal emulator:\
>>         :ti@:te@:tc=xterm-xfree86:
>
> that's dumb. just like those idiots on linux distributions
> who patched the X server to replace the weave pattern they didn't
> like with another one in their favorite color.

No, it's not dumb.  I seem to recall arguments a long time ago about
this.  I believe the majority don't want the ti/te behavior, and it
is disabled by default for that reason.  No version of Solaris that
I have ever used has behaved that way.  The only others have I seen
with that behavior were Linux and HP/UX.

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