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Date:      Sun, 24 Sep 2000 18:08:23 +0100
From:      Adam Laurie <adam@algroup.co.uk>
To:        freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: sysinstall DOESN'T ASK, dangerous defaults!
Message-ID:  <39CE3507.99AB57FA@algroup.co.uk>
References:  <39CB4C42.1A59669C@kew.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20000923222349.04919900@localhost>

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Brett Glass wrote:
> 
> At 01:13 AM 9/23/2000, Wes Peters wrote:
> 
> >Drew Derbyshire wrote:
> > >
> > > > Neil Blakey-Milner wrote:
> > > > Brett, did it ever occur to you THESE ARE THE DEFAULTS because MOST
> > > > PEOPLE WANT THEM THAT WAY?
> > >
> > > Did you take a survey?
> >
> >Yes.  The lack of complaints from anybody other than Brett Glass constitutes
> >our unofficial, non-scientific survey.
> 
> You forget: I wasn't the one who started this thread. I merely indicated
> my agreement.
> 
> > > Most people also want a secure system.  Don't even get me started about
> > > rlogin/rsh being on by default in /etc/inetd.conf.
> >
> >Most people wouldn't know a secure system if it bit them in the nose.
> 
> It's sad how many arguments for NOT improving FreeBSD are based on
> what I can only call hacker elitism. Of COURSE a super-experienced
> hacker can deal with a user-hostile install, secure the system
> manually, etc. given lots of time and knowledge. So?

Hear hear.

cheers,
Adam
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