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Date:      Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:43:19 -0500 (CDT)
From:      Jim Bryant <jbryant@argus.tfs.net>
To:        hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Intel Merced FreeBSD??? Intel? - NOT
Message-ID:  <199908271943.OAA28209@argus.tfs.net>
In-Reply-To: <199908271844.LAA29944@kithrup.com> from Sean Eric Fagan at "Aug 27, 99 11:44:55 am"

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> In article <Pine.GSO.3.96.990827103350.1456C-100000.kithrup.freebsd.hackers@mission.mvnc.edu> you write:
> >Actually, I was reading in a newsgroup, the VMS newsgroup I think it was,
> >that the PA-RISC chip is on the Merced chip.  Basically, Intel will sell
> >Merced's with the chip disabled (kind of like the math co-processor on the
> >486 SX's) and HP will sell it with the PA-RISC chip enabled so it can run
> >HP-UX. 
> 
> *sigh*
> 
> Look, people, the Merced WILL NOT excuse PA-RISC code directly.  It will be
> done via emulation/translation, and only a certain particular OS will be
> supported (HP-UX 11, I believe they stated -- since HP-UX 11 runs almost all
> HP-UX 10.* applications with no problem, I am _guessing_ that this means they
> will continue to work).
> 
> I really don't know how people get started with this.  HP has _never_ stated
> that the chip will handle it; all they have stated is that HPUX applications
> will continue to be supported.
> 
> I suggest you people go read comp.arch for a while; there's a fair bit of
> information cropping up there.  For example, there's a wonderful thread going
> on about HP's previous experience with architecture emulation, including some
> interesting comments by people at HP.

Well, the way I understand things, HP-UX 11 comes in two flavors, 32
bits and 64 bits.  I think that 32-bit code is handled in a legacy
emulation under 64 bit 11, I'd have to double check that though with
the book.

jim
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