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Date:      Fri, 7 Feb 2020 15:53:07 -0500
From:      Nick Wolff <darkfiberiru@gmail.com>
To:        Josh Aas <josh@kflag.net>
Cc:        freebsd-arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: updating cron and atrun
Message-ID:  <CACxAneBBtc3fTLK3B21w4Qv3ZTvSQ=2DEOWAWSAMuxwsue8Naw@mail.gmail.com>
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John,

Thanks for taking the time to do the research and review.

On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 9:19 AM Josh Aas <josh@kflag.net> wrote:

> I was looking for a way to contribute to FreeBSD and I decided to look
> into the cron/atrun project listed on this page:
>
> https://wiki.freebsd.org/IdeasPage#Improve_cron.288.29_and_atrun.288.29
>
> I looked into the current code, commits from the past decade, and the
> lineage of other versions of cron to see if there is a reasonable plan
> for updating FreeBSD=E2=80=99s cron based on another version. It doesn't =
seem
> like there are any particularly productive new path to take here. ISC
> cron is old and unmaintained, and I don=E2=80=99t think NetBSD or OpenBSD=
 cron
> is interesting enough to be worth entirely rebasing on. On top of
> that, FreeBSD cron seems to have some FreeBSD-specific functionality
> that we=E2=80=99d still need to maintain or =E2=80=9Cupstream=E2=80=9D el=
sewhere.
>
> I=E2=80=99d recommend continuing with the current status quo - keep FreeB=
SD=E2=80=99s
> version of cron and occasionally pull in security/stability patches as
> applicable from OpenBSD or NetBSD. The other options are a lot of work
> for little (if any) gain. Happy to hear other opinions though.
>
> Integrating atrun into cron might be nice but isn=E2=80=99t very interest=
ing
> IMO. Seems very possible that the cost of that churn outweighs the
> benefit. I=E2=80=99d love to hear more about why this is a particularly g=
ood
> idea if people believe it is. Maybe I=E2=80=99m missing something.
>
> If people agree I=E2=80=99d recommend removing the cron and atrun suggest=
ion
> on the Ideas Page. Maintaining that page seems like a pain though,
> might I recommend keeping track of these ideas as bugzilla bugs,
> tagged with something like =E2=80=9Cideaslist=E2=80=9D? Then you can just=
 link to that
> search.
>
> --
> Josh Aas
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