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Date:      Tue, 25 Jul 2000 23:06:48 +0200 (CEST)
From:      Andrzej Bialecki <abial@webgiro.com>
To:        Neil Blakey-Milner <nbm@mithrandr.moria.org>
Cc:        freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: The heart of the problem
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.20.0007252252500.44508-100000@mx.webgiro.com>
In-Reply-To: <20000725162648.A18036@mithrandr.moria.org>

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This is just to apologize that I doln't paricipate actively in he
discussion. I'm on vacation now, I have very poor connectivity, but
generally speaking I agree that;

* we need a coordinator, and Jeffrey could be the man here
* we proably need to throw away most of the current messy code, which came
up to life as a quick hack, but unforunately became popular...
* the new picobsd IMHO should still be part of main source tree, because
there are quite a few small knobs and hacks here and there that are highly
dependent on the system sources.
* the new build process should be Makefile based, so that it canbe done
regularly as part of the release build.
* the ports' Makefiles should be equipped wih knobs ande patches needed to
use them as parts of images.
* we need to provide some workimg images to the public, and reconstruct
the web pages

I'm going to have more time in October, I could help then... But IMHO the
above things need to start rolling ASAP.

On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote:

> On Tue 2000-07-25 (08:46), Jeffrey S. Sharp wrote:
> > * I believe that the current Pico kit needs to be thrown out and replaced
> > with something entirely new.
> > 
> > * Having made my own "Tiny" variant, I believe that I have a darn good
> > candidate for 'something entirely new'. :)
> 
> What do you think of the make(1)-based system in picobsd/custom at the
> moment, and the Patrick's extensions to it (advertised a few days ago,
> which I haven't had the necessary time to look at yet).
> 
> I can't imagine there's a better approach than a make(1)-based system,
> like the rest of the build.  The power of our make(1) build systems
> (ports, release, world, and now doc) is one of FreeBSD's great
> strengths.
> 
> Actually, while we're at it, can we get a list of the small FreeBSD kits
> and their URLs?
> 
> Perhaps we should move the PicoBSD web pages into the FreeBSD web page
> space, so we can get CVS and stuff going.  Any ideas, Andrzej?
> 
> Neil
> -- 
> Neil Blakey-Milner
> Sunesi Clinical Systems
> nbm@mithrandr.moria.org
> 
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Andrzej Bialecki

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