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Date:      Fri, 2 Dec 2011 16:23:40 +0000
From:      Chris Rees <crees@freebsd.org>
To:        Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon@orthanc.ca>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Max Khon <fjoe@samodelkin.net>
Subject:   Re: WITHOUT_PROFILE=yes by default
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In-Reply-To: <alpine.OSX.1.10.1112020746330.91234@peregrin.orthanc.ca>
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On 2 Dec 2011 15:57, "Lyndon Nerenberg" <lyndon@orthanc.ca> wrote:
>
> Max, I think a reasonable default is to continue building and shipping
profiled libraries.  This keeps FreeBSD consistent with every other UNIX
variant released in the last (at least) 30 years.
>
> If you personally find profiled library builds slow you down too much, a
one line addition to your /etc/src.conf solves the problem for you.
>
> Personally, I find building kernel modules to be intolerably slow, since
I tend to run static linked kernels.  I dealt with my preference by adding
one line to my /etc/src.conf, not by submitting a patch request to disable
the functionality in the builds.
>
> If you choose not to profile your code, that's entirely your choice.
Breaking this functionality for everyone else who *does* make the effort to
profile their code is a non-starter.

Nothing is being broken here, just a default being changed.

Users make up a greater proportion of our userbase than developers, so
sensible defaults for them are more appropriate, right?

Chris



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