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Date:      Wed, 9 May 2001 10:22:40 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Wes Kurdziolek <wkurdzio@cslab.vt.edu>
To:        <freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: We seriously need a cleanup on ftp-master
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.33.0105091021090.13276-100000@snowcow.cslab.vt.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.33.0105090101110.7718-100000@sdmail0.sd.bmarts.com>

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ftp3.freebsd.org will volunteer to be archive.freebsd.org. We've got
plenty of disk space, and I have lately routinely needed files from
pre-3.x releases.

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Wes Kurdziolek
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On Wed, 9 May 2001, Gordon Tetlow wrote:

> On Wed, 9 May 2001, jason andrade wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 8 May 2001, Cejka Rudolf wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> > > them. I would like to see much lower number of primary mirror sites, but
> > > with much higher quality and credibility. What about splitting up a list
> > > of mirror sites into primary (proven, credible) and secondary
> > > (incomplete, slower) categories?
> > >
> > > Imagine 4.4-RELEASE and all 100+ (?) mirror sites syncing
> > > and waiting for 4.4-release.iso over rsync :-)
> >
> >
> > from observing redhat releases, there are about 25 "primary" sites - i.e
> > ones where admins will work to ensure a pre-release is completely available
> > before an announcement.  the other 100 or so sites tend to catch up at a
> > rate of anything from a few days, to a few weeks, depending on the size
> > of their mirror.
> >
> > but of those 25, i doubt there are more than half a dozen who can offer
> > a complete (80G+?) redhat mirror.
> >
> > i'd expect similar numbers with freebsd mirroring.  sometimes the concept
> > of a "primary" might be more important as having an up to the date release
> > available than a complete freebsd archive per se.
>
> So why not formalize that relationship with an archive.freebsd.org which
> stores all the older stuff and ftp.freebsd.org that has the latest and
> greatest:
>
> Latest -RELEASE with packages
> Latest -SNAP (current and stable)
> Latest packages
>
> To get this work seamlessly, you need to put code into fetch/sysinstall to
> automagically try archive.freebsd.org when it can't find what it needs on
> ftp.freebsd.org. The advantage to this is a ftp.freebsd.org server will
> have high bandwidth requirements but lower disk requirements. An archive
> server will have large disk requirements but lower bandwidth requirements.
> This gives mirror operators the opportunity to sit down, assess what they
> can provide (ie, I can provide lots of disk, but not much bandwidth) and
> fill one of the above 2 roles.
>
> -gordon
>
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