Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:14:38 +0100 From: Martin Cracauer <cracauer@cons.org> To: Yarema <yds@ingress.net>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: X desktop contest? + Desktop Env Message-ID: <19981110151438.A15464@cons.org> In-Reply-To: <03ca01be0c2c$9a6112e0$1f40e6cd@ichiban.ingress.com>; from Yarema on Mon, Nov 09, 1998 at 05:02:11PM -0500 References: <03ca01be0c2c$9a6112e0$1f40e6cd@ichiban.ingress.com>
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In <03ca01be0c2c$9a6112e0$1f40e6cd@ichiban.ingress.com>, Yarema wrote: > > The default shells are because of an attempt to keep ``standard''. > >Although, I believe we should also include tcsh or bash... but I think > >they are under GPL license. Well, I think bash is. > > But zsh is under a BSD style license and IMHO it's better than but similar > enough to bash. So how about tcsh and zsh? I don't think that makes sense. bash2 is now the "standard" shell for userfriendly Unix accounts (and works well, BTW). If we ship a slightly different default shell, we'll be flooded with PRs from people used to bash. And zsh has quite some subtle differences (IMHO, it is much worse than bash2). And I don't think the license matters that much in this case, either. A more comfortable shell is for those people who want it and as long as the system still runs when you remove it, a GPL software is fine. P.S. What we need here is ports/<somethink>/easy2use which depends on X11, bash2, fvwm2/95, some file browser, a stupid X editor, less, a Web browser with default to /usr/share/doc/handbook/index.html, Mail and News reader. Just use the most commonly used tools (see logfile from wcarchive for pub/FreeBSD/packages). And which installs a set of useful default dotfiles, either to /etc or so that adduser will use it as default when creating a new account. That way, we can even take the incredible bloat and gone-wild configuration Linux distributions like S.U.S.E. put on the user to our advantage. Just the most common tools with a lightweight non-agressive configuration. Martin -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Martin Cracauer <cracauer@cons.org> http://www.cons.org/cracauer BSD User Group Hamburg, Germany http://www.bsdhh.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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