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Date:      Sun, 09 Jul 2000 20:38:24 -0400
From:      "Jeroen C. van Gelderen" <jeroen@vangelderen.org>
To:        Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net>
Cc:        Adam <bsdx@looksharp.net>, arch@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: making the snoop device loadable.
Message-ID:  <39691B00.F3EF8F36@vangelderen.org>
References:  <20000709120705.Q25571@fw.wintelcom.net> <Pine.BSF.4.21.0007091524430.407-100000@turtle.looksharp.net> <20000709131350.S25571@fw.wintelcom.net>

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Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> 
> * Adam <bsdx@looksharp.net> [000709 12:36] wrote:
> >
> > Why did it exist from FreeBSD-WhoKnowsWhen until 1999?  I'd like to use X
> > via startx and not xdm too.  I dont recall FreeBSD allowing X to start
> > after securelevel is > 0 because it accesses /dev/mem.  If it does now,
> > I'll shut up.  I tried searching the mail archives for discussions about
> > why NO_LKM is bad but couldn't find anything.  Could you help me find a
> > discussion on it or tell me why disabling kernel modules is *not*
> > security?  Assuming I'd notice a reboot and would consequently whup some
> > butt if someone did.
> 
> If I had root and wasn't such a nice guy (*grin*) you wouldn't
> know which way was up if I took the time to do so.

But you don't and guys like you are obviously not in Adam's
threat model.

> Please properly secure your box.

Please don't dicate other people what to do.

Cheers,
Jeroen
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