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Date:      Wed, 18 Nov 1998 09:19:06 +0100 (CET)
From:      Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai <asmodai@wxs.nl>
To:        Sheldon Hearn <axl@iafrica.com>
Cc:        Jason Fesler <jfesler@gigo.com>, FreeBSD Documentation <doc@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Heads up file
Message-ID:  <XFMail.981118091906.asmodai@wxs.nl>
In-Reply-To: <918.911344441@axl.training.iafrica.com>

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On 17-Nov-98 Sheldon Hearn wrote:
> 
> Hi guys,
> 
> I'm taking this off-list, as it's contributing nothing new, really.

Alright, or place it in chat.
 
> On Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:06:16 PST, Jason Fesler wrote:
> 
>>  .. Which is noisy beyond believe at times - signal to noise ratio is
>> pretty bad pretty often.
> 
> You've already said that. So have many people before. It's almost insane
> how much of the noise is people complaining about the noise. :-)

So shouldn't that ring a bell? =)

>> I'd certainly be willing to offer this help but I'm only able to commit to
>> once or twice a day 6 days a week.  I secondly don't have CVS access in 
>> order to
>> maintain it.  

I would be willing to contribute to it to...

> Please don't take offense, but I doubt that you have the
> FreeBSD-specific experience to offer this service effectively. I don't
> either, for that matter. It requires someone who knows how stuff fits
> together and foresee X breaking Y. Such people have limited time,
> generally better spent working on the operating system itself. :-)

I know I haven't got all the experience yet... And as long as I am not one of
the `elite' (meant in a good way) programmers of the project I am donating time
to the doc project. I have already started on an Ethernet Guide and will soon
write some more newbie entry level guides.

> For now, I honestly suggest that all people like you and me can do is
> contribute to the effort to reduce noise on the list. ;-)

The total point is, much of the caveats that lurk in STABLE or CURRENT (with
CURRENT being a more prone target) is that there are too many resources to
verify if a given problem could be fast cross checked against a file such as
Jason suggested. Why is the Linux How-To/Documentation project so big?

I am also not suggesting that we should spoonfeed every god-given command.

Also, I can see that file being a valuable resource for the whole FreeBSD
community as means of a reference point (ever thought about people cvsupping
from 2.2.x to 3.0? They haven't been monitoring current) and as a file in which
global changes are very easy to track. And yes _I_ read cvs-all, but do others?

We simply IMO cannot expect everyone who is wanting to try CURRENT to monitor
current or cvs-*.

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Junior Network/Security Specialist  |  fideles inveniamur
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