Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 12:03:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com> To: Matthew Jacob <mjacob@feral.com> Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.0 as a desktop 'failure' report Message-ID: <200209141903.g8EJ3Pua052916@apollo.backplane.com> References: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0209140940100.40126-100000@beppo>
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:The first install failed because the BIOS and FreeBSD couldn't agree on
:disk geometry. Then I laid the disk out with inadequate space in /usr
:partition- my 'pilot' error really.
Did you try the auto option in sysinstall to create the filesystem
layout? Are the defaults sufficient or do we need to bump them up?
:In 5.0-current, the rp driver is unable to sustain 9600 baud of input
:w/o dropping at least 25% of the input characters. That made the system
:unusable for the purpose I'd been (easily) using it before.
This reminds me of my old NeXT box. No, wait... it reminds me of
my old Amiga except that the Amiga could at least handle 57600
without too much trouble.
:I could have done a more formal test here- but Murray had asked us to
:please *try* 5.0 as our desktop at least (as opposed to the server stuff
:which I've been doing all along)- so I decided to oblige him and give it
:a whirl, as a casual customer, say- with disappointing results.
:
:I believe that I didn't have really broken or odd hardware. The
:RocketPort may be a bit unusual- but the booting issues with a 440LX+
:really shouldn't have happened.
:
:I suppose that by the time 5.0 makes it a CD for a real release, there
:will be a fully functional window system- but the lack of an ability to
:right now, have something 'just work' -even if *suboptimally*- makes
:this something for the "Not Recommended' CR category.
:
:Now- I'm just mentioning this as my experience- I'm not mailing this to
:start a big flame war- if everyone wants to say that my experience was
:just an edge case, that'd be fine. I feel I've done due diligence to
:*try* 5.0 as a desktop: It's not ready for me at least.
:
:-matt
I think what is most telling about your experience is that "detail
matters". All it takes is one broken device driver which you happen
to need and, BOOM, that is the end of it.
-Matt
Matthew Dillon
<dillon@backplane.com>
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