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Date:      Tue, 7 Jun 2016 16:32:38 +0300
From:      Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru>
To:        Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd.org>
Cc:        krad <kraduk@gmail.com>, "stable@freebsd.org" <stable@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: unbound and ntp issuse
Message-ID:  <20160607133238.GO75630@zxy.spb.ru>
In-Reply-To: <1465306172.1188.24.camel@freebsd.org>
References:  <20160603191523.GE75630@zxy.spb.ru> <44y46ie92p.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <20160606135018.GL75630@zxy.spb.ru> <CALfReye2A8XBcjSg%2BB0Z7_j4HJsF9h7EAEjAW4Li2F5c=846YA@mail.gmail.com> <20160607084733.GM75630@zxy.spb.ru> <CALfReyc1GtDnfvVaso5h_sKqP19GZftL7-5SmGqBWEjmOE7XpA@mail.gmail.com> <20160607104335.GN75630@zxy.spb.ru> <CALfReyfX=dNMbqJ%2BUNTUUqHHZEpMUMWpjoyiurKPRF3Ncn5%2BOA@mail.gmail.com> <CALfReydbzgrVYNRHvtzYufJhFg9xosDP6LEfb4u-Q271MDcvTg@mail.gmail.com> <1465306172.1188.24.camel@freebsd.org>

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On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 07:29:32AM -0600, Ian Lepore wrote:

> On Tue, 2016-06-07 at 12:10 +0100, krad wrote:
> > whops that should be
> > 
> > ntpdate_hosts not servers
> > 
> 
> These suggestions are essentially insane because they're ignoring the
> basic fact that the freebsd installer creates a non-working system.  If
> unbound requires DNSSEC, and DNSSEC requires good time, and good time
> requires hostname resolution, then that circular dependency is a
> problem that the freebsd project needs to fix, not something to be
> hacked around by each individual sysadmin.

Exactly! This is may point!

> It is a bit disturbing to me that the project members who created this
> situation have been silent in the face of *months* of reporting of it
> by several different users.



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