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Date:      Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:21:48 -0600
From:      Josh Paetzel <josh@tcbug.org>
To:        =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= <des@des.no>
Cc:        Jason Stone <freebsd-security@dfmm.org>, Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon@orthanc.ca>, freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: OPIE considered insecure
Message-ID:  <74704C56-60C9-4074-900E-15CFA735B840@tcbug.org>
In-Reply-To: <86skmlm6aa.fsf@ds4.des.no>
References:  <200902090957.27318.mail@maxlor.com> <20090209170550.GA60223@hobbes.ustdmz.roe.ch> <alpine.BSF.2.00.0902091246280.61088@mm.orthanc.ca> <20090209134738.G15166@treehorn.dfmm.org> <86eiy5nqjz.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20090211122200.GA86644@hobbes.ustdmz.roe.ch> <86skmlm6aa.fsf@ds4.des.no>

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On Feb 11, 2009, at 7:50 AM, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:

> Daniel Roethlisberger <daniel@roe.ch> writes:
>> Your statement is of course correct, logging in from untrusted
>> machines can never be secure.  However, OPIE still raises the bar
>> on the required capabilities for an attack (active, real-time
>> attack versus passive keylogging / data dumping).
>
> This conversation reminds me of a flipchart outside the terminal  
> room at
> an early BSDCon, with a list of passwords sniffed from the network and
> something like "if your password is listed below, you should consider
> using SSH" :)
>
> DES
> -- 
> Dag-Erling Smørgrav - des@des.no

This conversation reminds me of:

http://xkcd.com/538/

Thanks,

Josh Paetzel


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