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Date:      Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:31:30 -0500
From:      Brian Reichert <reichert@numachi.com>
To:        Charles Swiger <cswiger@mac.com>
Cc:        Anders Nordby <anders@fix.no>
Subject:   Re: Tools to wash email-lists for bouncing addresses
Message-ID:  <20050114173130.GY42653@numachi.com>
In-Reply-To: <4B078DEB-664F-11D9-97FA-003065ABFD92@mac.com>
References:  <20050114131102.GA95157@totem.fix.no> <4B078DEB-664F-11D9-97FA-003065ABFD92@mac.com>

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On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 12:11:13PM -0500, Charles Swiger wrote:
> Use Mailman for your mailing list software; Mailman is smart enough to 
> understand bounces from list traffic and disable or remove old 
> addresses.  The FreeBSD lists are using Mailman now...

ezmlm-managed lists do as well, but it's married to qmail, which
might not be useful for you...

As described on other lists, you'll need to be able to generate a
message for each recipient with their subscribed address somehow
encoded in the envelope sender address, such that when a bounce
returns to the list manager, that software can extract it.

Under the qmail universe, such a construct is called a VERP (Variable
Envelope Return Paths):

  <http://cr.yp.to/proto/verp.txt>;

As far as I know, ezmlm was the first MLM to handle bounces in this
manner, but many other MLMs now utilize similar features...

In fact, a Google search on 'VERP' reveals many hits for other MTA/MLM
combinations.

> -- 
> -Chuck
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