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Date:      Mon, 22 Mar 2010 09:41:10 -0400
From:      John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>
To:        Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@leidinger.net>
Cc:        "Robert N. M. Watson" <rwatson@freebsd.org>, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: CTF patch for testing/review (was: Re: is dtrace usable?)
Message-ID:  <201003220941.10525.jhb@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <20100322123408.16671ijbvmcyux80@webmail.leidinger.net>
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On Monday 22 March 2010 7:34:08 am Alexander Leidinger wrote:
> Redirecting from stable@ to arch@...
> 
> Quoting John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org> (from Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:12:29 
-0500):
> 
> > On Wednesday 10 March 2010 5:34:22 am Alexander Leidinger wrote:
> >> Quoting "Robert N. M. Watson" <rwatson@freebsd.org> (from Tue, 9 Mar
> >> 2010 16:39:09 +0000):
> >>
> >> >
> >> > On Mar 9, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Alexander Leidinger wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>> From this you can see that sys.mk is included and parsed before
> > 'Makefile',
> >> >>> so the WITH_CTF=yes is not set until after sys.mk has been parsed.
> >> >>
> >> >> I think we need to find a different solution for this. The need to
> >> >> specify WITH_CTF at the command line is very error prone. :(
> >> >
> >> > You are neither the first person to have made this observation, nor
> >> > the first person to have failed to propose a solution in the form of
> >> > a patch :-).
> 
> Ok, here is the proposal in form of a patch. :-)
>      http://www.leidinger.net/test/ctf.diff
> 
> > Unfortunately the ctf stuff breaks static binaries.  I think that if  
> > that were
> > fixed we would simply enable it by default and be done.
> 
> The patch is:
>   - enabling CTF stuff by default for the kernel
>   - allows to disable the CTF stuff for the kernel by defining NO_CTF
>   - *not* enabling the CTF stuff by default for libs and progs
>     (if someone tells me how to distinguish the build for static
>     stuff from dynamic stuff, I can have a look to enable it for
>     the dynamic case)
>   - allows to enable the CTF stuff for the userland by defining
>     WITH_CTF as before

I think this patch looks very interesting.  I think in some ways it would be 
nice to make CTF "opt-in" though instead of "opt-out".  I think the current 
patch would enable CTF when building ports, for example.   I think instead it 
should default to not building CTF, but require an ENABLE_CTF (instead of 
NO_CTF) to be set, and set that in bsd.kern.mk if WITH_CTF is defined.

-- 
John Baldwin



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