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Date:      Fri, 10 Dec 2010 10:19:25 -0500
From:      Jon Radel <jon@radel.com>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Cc:        ryan.coleman@cwis.biz, xaero@xaerolimit.net
Subject:   Re: THE SPAM WE GET [stop fretting and read]
Message-ID:  <4D0244FD.9010706@radel.com>
In-Reply-To: <D550AC00-1202-4D30-9FF5-9B5260AD28F2@cwis.biz>
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On 12/10/10 9:46 AM, Ryan Coleman wrote:
> No, this list does not.
>
> As I mentioned yesterday, this is an unmonitored, unnannyed list that a=
ccepts emails from addresses without checking authenticity... meaning I c=
an post from 4 emails (and I have) and not be subscribed on each address.=

>
> Spoofing email addresses has happened for years, and with this list's a=
rchives being publicly available online it's been happening for a while a=
nd will continue to happen until the rules may or may not be changed.
>
> --
> Ryan
>
If this discussion is about the same wave of spam I've been getting=20
examples of in the last couple of days, it should be noted that the mail =

isn't coming via the mailing list at all.  Somebody is harvesting e-mail =

addresses and subject lines from a month or more ago and sending the=20
spam directly.

Folks, you have to read the headers if you want to have a sensible=20
discussion about specific instances of spam.  If you don't, you're=20
simply sending yet more noise that's kinda sorta pretending to be signal.=


My personal rule of thumb with spam is to assume that absolutely=20
everything involved is a lie, this leading to a more accurate overall=20
assessment than the naive thought that any of it might possible be true=20
just because of some social contract.  After careful analysis, you=20
*might* conclude that a few things actually are true, but that's=20
different than assuming they are.  So, Subject: that look like they're=20
from the FreeBSD mailing list: lie.  From: address that of somebody you=20
discussed that topic with on the mailing list: lie.   Date:: lie.  All=20
lies with one goal, to get you to click through on a URL that is *not*=20
(another lie, get it?) in your self-interest to visit.

--=20

--Jon Radel
jon@radel.com



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