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Date:      Sun, 12 Jul 1998 03:51:35 +0000
From:      "Frank Pawlak" <fpawlak@execpc.com>
To:        Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>, dag-erli@ifi.uio.no (=?iso-8859-1?Q?D?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?ag-Erling_Coidan_Sm=F8rgrav_?=)
Cc:        Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>, Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, jasone@canonware.com, smoergrd@oslo.geco-prakla.slb.com
Subject:   Re: Microsoft's breaches of contract (was: FBSD license and   multiple copyright holders)
Message-ID:  <980712035135.ZM14948@darkstar.connect.com>
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On Jul 11,  9:07pm, Dag-Erling Coidan Smørgrav wrote:
> Subject: Re: Microsoft's breaches of contract (was: FBSD license and   mul
> Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> writes:
> > Interestingly, the Microsoft Windows 95 implementations of a few TCP/IP
> > utilities are said to have Berkeley copyright notices in the code, which
> > means they're probably derived from FreeBSD utilities. Is Microsoft giving
> > credit to the developers? If it isn't, it may be violating the
> > Berkeley-style license and thus could be the target of a copyright lawsuit.
>
> No, you've got it mixed up a bit.
>
> Microsoft ships the standard BSD ftp client with Windows 95 and NT
> (probably 98 too, I haven't checked). If you search the archives for
> the beginning of this thread, you'll find I posted an article with the
> SCCS ID extracted from the Windows 95 ftp client.
>
> However, this is *not* the FreeBSD ftp client. They're kinda cousins.
> Microsoft uses a plain vanilla 4.x BSD ftp ported to Windows 95, while
> FreeBSD has added fifteen tons of nifty features (command-line editing
> and file name completion come to mind).
>
> If you check the ftp(1) code (/usr/src/usr/bin/ftp/) you'll see it
> uses the old-style four-clause BSD copyright, which requires all
> advertising material for software derived from BSD-licensed code to
> include the mention "This product includes software developed by the
> University of California, Berkeley and its contributors."
>
> Obviously, they're not doing it. Equally obviously, nobody so far has
> had the balls to challenge this practice.
>
> DES (who whishes he had a Congressman to write to)
> --
> One two, one two, one two.
>-- End of excerpt from Dag-Erling Coidan Smørgrav

Are you absolutely sure that your information is correct?  Can you provide the
goods to prove that this is true?  I would love to get that in front of the
Wisconsin Attorney General and my congressman.  You may not have one to write
to, but I would be more than happy to write mine as your proxy. ;-)  I hate M$
so much that I would be very happy to pass this on, but I need to be sure that
it is correct.  Don't want to look like a horse's ass.

Regards,
Frank


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